Dungeon progress shouldn't be allowed while party members are watching cutscenes

[Scerick]

I'm not sure why people who speed run don't make a pre-made party of like minded players who are all on-board to skip cut-scenes. Honestly it's a triple win for pre-mades as you can stack the group to more efficiently go through the dungeon, instant queue time, and no one wants to watch cut-scenes. I was able to clear CM 7 times last night with no attempt taking more than 20 minutes because we ran 1 healer 1 tank 6 dd. I guess there's also a fourth win here, as 2 more DD than normal got to run the dungeon.

[Kyzr]

Don't blame the players for making progression take place in two dungeons with nearly a combined 30 minutes in cut scenes. That's 100% SE's fault.

We get that you want to watch it, but will take something like 50 CM runs to get full Darklight gear for just one class. Imagine your working on Job #2 or #3? Suddenly people kinda stop caring if you want to watch them or not, and can you really blame them? They wouldn't be in there if there was a better option for gear, or if AK didn't have an hour long queue.

You're blaming the wrong people. SE needs to add more server hardware, simple as that.

[Mega_Man_U]

We get that you want to watch it, but will take something like 50 CM runs to get full Darklight gear for just one class. Imagine your working on Job #2 or #3? Suddenly people kinda stop caring if you want to watch them or not, and can you really blame them?

Yes? Why are people maxing job #2 or #3 already? If you rushed to endgame content and you feel like you need the best available gear that doesn't entitle you to being an ass.

They wouldn't be in there if there was a better option for gear, or if AK didn't have an hour long queue.

The people trying to watch the cutscenes had to wait in a queue just like you did. Why is your right to speed run the game more important than their right to watch the cutscenes?

[Ryuujin]

I like this idea. Forcing people to watch it until everyone finishes or chooses to skip. Not having this option hurts more than having it. The lesser of 2 evils.

[Kyzr]

Yes? Why are people maxing job #2 or #3 already? If you rushed to endgame content and you feel like you need the best available gear that doesn't entitle you to being an ass.

The people trying to watch the cutscenes had to wait in a queue just like you did. Why is your right to speed run the game more important than their right to watch the cutscenes?

No need to get yippy, kid. Are you really suggesting SE is blameless in this? It's their design that's pitting progression against new players. As you do multiple jobs, you'll end up skipping these cutscenes hundreds of times. The gross majority of the time players spend in CM will not be because of the story, so please accept that you're in an almost unfathomable minority here.

I would completely skip CM if I had the option, but as it stands, I don't. I can run CM 3-4 times in the takes me to just get through the AK queue. Another 1-2 times if you include the actual AK run itself. We're talking 400-600 Tomes vs 80 from AK. Yeah, speed runs aren't going anywhere.

And if you lock people into cutscenes, what happens when someone gets pissed off at someone else (as they inevitably do), or DC's mid cutscene? You can't kick people for being dicks, so the CM comes to a complete stop because 1 guy doesn't skip dialogue (to be a jerk)? Or you have to wait 10min(I think?) to kick a DC'd player?

These knee-jerk reactions are hardly "solutions". The real solution is to separate out "Story" from "Progression", just like every major MMO since, oh I don't know, forever? It's SE's approach that's broken, not the players.

[Darkhaund]

I think that this promotes the "rushing"
those of use that enjoy the story and want to watch it should be allowed to wihout having the pressure of the other party members

A fix about this issue should definitely be implemented

[aekt]

+1 for forcing everyone to wait
if you allow different options it will turn off newcomers since then game won't have as many people that will watch CS in the future.
if you want to farm? tough luck, either find a group of like-minded or bear with it.
If like you said everyone will get tired of the CS, then eventually everyone will skip the CS.
running it 50 times doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole, no matter if you have 7/8 people, if you want CS free, find that 8th person.
FFs have always been story driven which is why so many people joined the game back in 1.0 and now 2.0. If you want to play something story-less go play any other korean MMORPG.
The only problems about dungeon are ppl clearing every single mob when clearly you can skip them and still get the map achievement since dungeons don't even yield good exp. Also tanks that can't tank, healers that can't heal and dps that constantly interrupt a target that has been marked not to attack because they are cced.

[Tubben]

I think that this promotes the "rushing"
those of use that enjoy the story and want to watch it should be allowed to wihout having the pressure of the other party members

A fix about this issue should definitely be implemented

You are right. The best fix would be the option in the duty finder to queue for an cut scene free version.


this way everyone gets what he want.

[JamesX]

People just need to make it clear that at the beginning of the run that they are new and want to watch all the cutscenes. If the party agrees then its fine. If not then just have the minority quit instance and move on. Problem have its own solution.

[Lissyl]

Needs should go to the majority.

Right here is the flaw in your assumption. The majority has no intrinsic right simply because they are the majority. In fact, our entire nation's system of government is based around making certain that that is not necessarily a determining factor in any decision.

This is a model of thinking you should really reconsider.