Dungeon progress shouldn't be allowed while party members are watching cutscenes

[Kyzr]

Don't blame the players for making progression take place in two dungeons with nearly a combined 30 minutes in cut scenes. That's 100% SE's fault.

We get that you want to watch it, but will take something like 50 CM runs to get full Darklight gear for just one class. Imagine your working on Job #2 or #3? Suddenly people kinda stop caring if you want to watch them or not, and can you really blame them? They wouldn't be in there if there was a better option for gear, or if AK didn't have an hour long queue.

You're blaming the wrong people. SE needs to add more server hardware, simple as that.

[Mega_Man_U]

We get that you want to watch it, but will take something like 50 CM runs to get full Darklight gear for just one class. Imagine your working on Job #2 or #3? Suddenly people kinda stop caring if you want to watch them or not, and can you really blame them?

Yes? Why are people maxing job #2 or #3 already? If you rushed to endgame content and you feel like you need the best available gear that doesn't entitle you to being an ass.

They wouldn't be in there if there was a better option for gear, or if AK didn't have an hour long queue.

The people trying to watch the cutscenes had to wait in a queue just like you did. Why is your right to speed run the game more important than their right to watch the cutscenes?

[Kyzr]

Yes? Why are people maxing job #2 or #3 already? If you rushed to endgame content and you feel like you need the best available gear that doesn't entitle you to being an ass.

The people trying to watch the cutscenes had to wait in a queue just like you did. Why is your right to speed run the game more important than their right to watch the cutscenes?

No need to get yippy, kid. Are you really suggesting SE is blameless in this? It's their design that's pitting progression against new players. As you do multiple jobs, you'll end up skipping these cutscenes hundreds of times. The gross majority of the time players spend in CM will not be because of the story, so please accept that you're in an almost unfathomable minority here.

I would completely skip CM if I had the option, but as it stands, I don't. I can run CM 3-4 times in the takes me to just get through the AK queue. Another 1-2 times if you include the actual AK run itself. We're talking 400-600 Tomes vs 80 from AK. Yeah, speed runs aren't going anywhere.

And if you lock people into cutscenes, what happens when someone gets pissed off at someone else (as they inevitably do), or DC's mid cutscene? You can't kick people for being dicks, so the CM comes to a complete stop because 1 guy doesn't skip dialogue (to be a jerk)? Or you have to wait 10min(I think?) to kick a DC'd player?

These knee-jerk reactions are hardly "solutions". The real solution is to separate out "Story" from "Progression", just like every major MMO since, oh I don't know, forever? It's SE's approach that's broken, not the players.

[Mega_Man_U]

Are you really suggesting SE is blameless in this? [...] The gross majority of the time players spend in CM will not be because of the story, so please accept that you're in an almost unfathomable minority here.

I never said SE were blameless, but I get your point: I'm a lesser player, nevermind the fact I bought the game and will pay the subscription just like everyone else. Gotcha.

I can run CM 3-4 times in the takes me to just get through the AK queue. Another 1-2 times if you include the actual AK run itself. We're talking 400-600 Tomes vs 80 from AK. Yeah, speed runs aren't going anywhere.

Then what is the problem with watching the cutscenes? With the amount of speedruns you're implying here, you'd be watching them maybe 1% of the time. After all, new players are, again "an almost unfathomable minority".

And if you lock people into cutscenes, what happens when someone gets pissed off at someone else (as they inevitably do), or DC's mid cutscene? You can't kick people for being dicks, so the CM comes to a complete stop because 1 guy doesn't skip dialogue (to be a jerk)? Or you have to wait 10min(I think?) to kick a DC'd player?

That's a genuine concern and I agree.