Is anyone annoyed by the HUGE number of people using bots on this game?

[Gracious]

lol um... wow.....
so basic arguments seem to be:
1. Botting is fine cuz the game sucks
2. I don't bot but botting is fine cuz the game sucks so i undersand
3. Botting is cheating and cheating is never right
4. I'm a troll and just posting here to troll trolls who got trolled by reverse-trolls

o_o
Does anyone consider that rampant botting will ruin this game so when its launched on PS3 no one will want to play and thus it will essentially stay dead?

You basically summed up the whole thread. The direction by the trolls has overtaken any real discussion we could have into it. I also am concerned about the rampant botting and how it will effect PS3 launch.

[Nuru]

You basically summed up the whole thread. The direction by the trolls has overtaken and real discussion we could have into to. I also am concerned about the rampant botting and how it will effect PS3 launch.

You do realize that if we do get rid of the current botting, the system is still tedious and they will come right back... right?

Think a little bit before you post, and determine what makes more sense.

[Gracious]

You do realize that if we do get rid of the current botting, the system is still tedious and they will come right back... right?

Think a little bit before you post, and determine what makes more sense.

Please don't attack me. I'm not attacking you. I don't agree with you.

[TheVedis]

You do realize that if we do get rid of the current botting, the system is still tedious and they will come right back... right?

Think a little bit before you post, and determine what makes more sense.

they will come back regardless

theres a reason that people are constantly banned for rmt and botting in every game on a regular basis

doesnt matter what game, it still happens

[Kurokikaze]

they will come back regardless

theres a reason that people are constantly banned for rmt and botting in every game on a regular basis

doesnt matter what game, it still happens

How about looking at how mainstream these tactics are in other games before running off at the mouth?

Hold on I'll help you. It's not mainstream or common at all because the average player doesn't have to.

[TheVedis]

How about looking at how mainstream these tactics are in other games before running off at the mouth?

Hold on I'll help you. It's not mainstream or common at all.

i have

go troll somewhere else please

[Nuru]

they will come back regardless

theres a reason that people are constantly banned for rmt and botting in every game on a regular basis

doesnt matter what game, it still happens

Yes, and as i mentioned earlier, it always will! Now with that said, what exactly is your argument? You are saying that since bots will always come back, we should ban them or should we just let them have their way? Either way will lead to the same conclusion.

Now, if you made the crafting system less tedious, the less bots will be used because crafting will simply be a lot less work. SE needs to find a way to make it fun to craft and i do think Materia will play its part in doing that. Yoshida could be steps ahead of us but we will never know until we hear exactly what the plans are. Until then, people are still going to argue over their own contradictory arguement. If that makes sense.

Please don't attack me. I'm not attacking you. I don't agree with you.

Umm, you deliberately and indirectly referred to me as a troll, and i begged your reconsider. -_-

Anyways, the main goal here isnt exactly to get rid of all botters, but to find a way to diminish [SIZE="5"]the need or desire to bot.[/SIZE]

Which usually results in the decrease of botters. You guys are getting your way too, we aren't saying that getting rid of botters is a bad thing, we are just trying to get rid of the main reason to why people bot in the first place, t\with the understanding that yes, people will still bot, just that there will be less.

If you cant see this as [SIZE="5"]an answer to both prayers[/SIZE]. Then i recommend you take a moment for yourself, let off some steam \, then come back and try to understand the bigger picture here.

[TheVedis]

Yes, and as i mentioned earlier, it always will! Now with that said, what exactly is your argument? You are saying that since bots will always come back, we should ban them or should we just let them have their way? Either way will lead to the same conclusion.

Now, if you made the crafting system less tedious, the less bots will be used because crafting will simply be a lot less work. SE needs to find a way to make it fun to craft and i do think Materia will play its part in doing that. Yoshida could be steps ahead of us but we will never know until we hear exactly what the plans are. Until then, people are still going to argue over their own contradictory arguement. If that makes sense.



Umm, you deliberately and indirectly referred to me as a troll, and i begged your reconsider. -_-

im extremely against them
if you read my other posts youd more then realize that, i want them all banned

what most of this thread has degenerated into though is people saying its ok to bot cuz thats the way it is with this game, which is total BS

[Nuru]

im extremely against them
if you read my other posts youd more then realize that, i want them all banned

what most of this thread has degenerated into though is people saying its ok to bot cuz thats the way it is with this game, which is total BS

Yes, we are all extremely against them. We've covered this. None of us think it is okay to bot. That is not what this game is or how it is supposed to be played.

We gave away the reason why people bot, is because the crafting process is tedious, and other systems are the same way, but crafting in general is way too tedious.

Now that we've covered the root of the problem, here is our solution. Change the crafting process, and all other tedious processes that people use bots for. You see how this works? No Legit player has to worry about being banned, and the people that bot really have no excuse to bot anymore, unless they were extremely lazy and have no sense of accmplishment, which in general, shouldnt even matter to you.

By the way Vedis, the main problem is that there isn't any special task force or GMs to investigate. The only other way is to just suggest a new crafting process. This won't only reduce the number of botters, but it will also be made more suitable for the rest of the playerbase.

Also, Gracious, it was a misunderstanding, sorry about that.

because those players are immature and dont want a conversation, they want to troll, and argue, and see how pissed off they can make everyone

The only reason anyone would get pissed off is because they are not looking at this as a discussion, but rather an arguement, and of course, everyone wants to be the one who is right. In a discussion, people normally through in reasons why some ideas wont work. I have yet to see anyone give me a good reason why a Crafting Process revamp will reduce the amount of botters.

[darkstarpoet1]

Yes, we are all extremely against them. We've covered this. None of us think it is okay to bot. That is not what this game is or how it is supposed to be played.

We gave away the reason why people bot, is because the crafting process is tedious, and other systems are the same way, but crafting in general is way too tedious.

Now that we've covered the root of the problem, here is our solution. Change the crafting process, and all other tedious processes that people use bots for. You see how this works? No Legit player has to worry about being banned, and the people that bot really have no excuse to bot anymore, unless they were extremely lazy and have no sense of accmplishment, which in general, shouldnt even matter to you.

i have to disagree here. no matter how much they change crafting for people to enjoy it even more the people that bot just to hit max rank will do so regardless of how much fun the rest of us have. the best method is just to ban the cheaters that are cheating.