Is anyone annoyed by the HUGE number of people using bots on this game?

[Nuru]

The approach I explained would be SE baking a bot into NQ crafting. Essentially making the game like WoW and remove crafting from the "class" list. It should have never been there to start. Sure they can have their own guild etc... But they failed the moment they decided to make crafting a full on experience. Crafting is work irl and its still work in-game. lol

As it will always be. You can't blame them for trying to make crafting in this game a bit more immersible though. The intentions were to make crafting in this game more of a hobby and a definite role in the game's community rather than a tedious experience to draw the demand of botting.

[Kurokikaze]

Oh its a hobby alright.

I'd say the whole thing was a lofty and very interesting concept at the start. The end results... not so much.

I find it hard to believe that someone at SE leveled a craft/gathering class how they were meant to and didn't run into these concerns.

Then again... theres so many problems with the game that its hard to believe they play it at all. Gotta be playing the test version that looks sorta like TERA.

[Azurymber]

lol um... wow.....
so basic arguments seem to be:
1. Botting is fine cuz the game sucks
2. I don't bot but botting is fine cuz the game sucks so i undersand
3. Botting is cheating and cheating is never right
4. I'm a troll and just posting here to troll trolls who got trolled by reverse-trolls

o_o
Does anyone consider that rampant botting will ruin this game so when its launched on PS3 no one will want to play and thus it will essentially stay dead?

[Nuru]

Oh its a hobby alright.

I'd say the whole thing was a lofty and very interesting concept at the start. The end results... not so much.

I find it hard to believe that someone at SE leveled a craft/gathering class how they were meant to and didn't run into these concerns.

Then again... theres so many problems with the game that its hard to believe they play it at all. Gotta be playing the test version that looks sorta like TERA.

Not sure if you mean whether they are playing it now, or before release?

I'm sure you know that they most likely didn't have the time to dick around with the crafting system prior to release. SE was sort of in that "Fuck it lets release as is, we don't have time" kinda mood. As for the beta testers (which I know you were one of them, i subbed to you. ), the feedback that was provided wasn't looked into because of the release.

People need to realize that this game wasn't the same game anybody on that development team really envisioned when it released. If i was on that dev team, I'd have a strong desire to facepalm myself until this game is better, and that palm print on my forehead would last me the rest of my life.

There are changes coming to crafting, but I'm not sure i it deals with the crafting process itself, just the item output and results.

[Kurokikaze]

The game has more important things to worry about than rampant botting. More so when gil means jack shit.

Lower the need to cheat by making the mundane things more fun or actually automated. Two birds, 1 rock, everyone wins.

[Nuru]

lol um... wow.....
so basic arguments seem to be:
1. Botting is fine cuz the game sucks
2. I don't bot but botting is fine cuz the game sucks so i undersand
3. Botting is cheating and cheating is never right
4. I'm a troll and just posting here to troll trolls who got trolled by reverse-trolls

o_o
Does anyone consider that rampant botting will ruin this game so when its launched on PS3 no one will want to play and thus it will essentially stay dead?

Okay, so what part of "changing the crafting system" haven't you read? I would strongly recommend you read the posts between Kuro and I because they entail an intelligent discussion on how to counter the bots. We are basically talking about how to kill two birds with one stone.

Lower the need to cheat by making the mundane things more fun or actually automated. Two birds, 1 rock, everyone wins.

O_O

... ummm /blush

[bsphil]

1. Botting is fine cuz the game sucks

Wrong. Not saying that botting is fine. That's just WHY people are drawn to botting. If the game had less tedium in it, there'd be a relatively lower population of botters.

[Gracious]

lol um... wow.....
so basic arguments seem to be:
1. Botting is fine cuz the game sucks
2. I don't bot but botting is fine cuz the game sucks so i undersand
3. Botting is cheating and cheating is never right
4. I'm a troll and just posting here to troll trolls who got trolled by reverse-trolls

o_o
Does anyone consider that rampant botting will ruin this game so when its launched on PS3 no one will want to play and thus it will essentially stay dead?

You basically summed up the whole thread. The direction by the trolls has overtaken any real discussion we could have into it. I also am concerned about the rampant botting and how it will effect PS3 launch.

[Nuru]

You basically summed up the whole thread. The direction by the trolls has overtaken and real discussion we could have into to. I also am concerned about the rampant botting and how it will effect PS3 launch.

You do realize that if we do get rid of the current botting, the system is still tedious and they will come right back... right?

Think a little bit before you post, and determine what makes more sense.

[Kurokikaze]

Not sure if you mean whether they are playing it now, or before release?

I'm sure you know that they most likely didn't have the time to dick around with the crafting system prior to release. SE was sort of in that "Fuck it lets release as is, we don't have time" kinda mood. As for the beta testers (which I know you were one of them, i subbed to you. ), the feedback that was provided wasn't looked into because of the release.

People need to realize that this game wasn't the same game anybody on that development team really envisioned when it released. If i was on that dev team, I'd have a strong desire to facepalm myself until this game is better, and that palm print on my forehead would last me the rest of my life.

There are changes coming to crafting, but I'm not sure i it deals with the crafting process itself, just the item output and results.

I meant the SE staff conducting the internal testing of all aspects of their game. Shit must've been a sweatshop. Y U NO CRAFT FASTA!?

Oh I realize thats the case and I'm saying that SE is completely to blame for that. They chose to disregard the public opinion on the beta forums.

Theres a lot of concepts in this game that if I was at their board meetings when they were being pitched my response would be "GTFO!".