Is anyone annoyed by the HUGE number of people using bots on this game?

[Gracious]

Yes, and as i mentioned earlier, it always will! Now with that said, what exactly is your argument? You are saying that since bots will always come back, we should ban them or should we just let them have their way? Either way will lead to the same conclusion.

Now, if you made the crafting system less tedious, the less bots will be used because crafting will simply be a lot less work. SE needs to find a way to make it fun to craft and i do think Materia will play its part in doing that. Yoshida could be steps ahead of us but we will never know until we hear exactly what the plans are. Until then, people are still going to argue over their own contradictory arguement. If that makes sense.



Umm, you deliberately and indirectly referred to me as a troll, and i begged your reconsider. -_-

Yes I did refer to trolling. I wasn't targeting you directly as I do not have all the names memorized of the players posting. I have however read this thread more than once. There was a good conversation in the matter before some of the players posting began being rude and uncivil to other players posting. Also seeming to target certain individuals that also made good points. The thread topic is "Botting Being Rampent"; Can you explain why players are targeting other players instead of just saying their opinion?

[TheVedis]

We should start by banning you. Cause that is one too many high level crafting jobs. No way that was legitimate.

Do you see how that works?

yes i see how it works, now let me explain it to the ignorant like you how it works

they dont ban people for having alot of levels, if they ddi no one would play cuz theyd get banned for hitting cap
they investigate(which is the thing alot of people dont understand)

they dont ban people for being reported, they check on them, several times at that to see what patterns anbd activity they do

if the person is non responsive, does the same thing over and over....yeah they are obviously a bot, and bam they are banned

for people like me, legit people, who talk nonstop in game while doing everything, its obvious they are legit

[TheVedis]

Yes I did refer to trolling. I wasn't targeting you directly as I do not have all the names memorized of the players posting. I have however read this thread more than once. There was a good conversation in the matter before some of the players posting began being rude and uncivil to other players posting. Also seeming to target certain individuals that also made good points. The thread topic is "Botting Being Rampent"; Can you explain why players are targeting other players instead of just saying their opinion?

because those players are immature and dont want a conversation, they want to troll, and argue, and see how pissed off they can make everyone

[Nuru]

im extremely against them
if you read my other posts youd more then realize that, i want them all banned

what most of this thread has degenerated into though is people saying its ok to bot cuz thats the way it is with this game, which is total BS

Yes, we are all extremely against them. We've covered this. None of us think it is okay to bot. That is not what this game is or how it is supposed to be played.

We gave away the reason why people bot, is because the crafting process is tedious, and other systems are the same way, but crafting in general is way too tedious.

Now that we've covered the root of the problem, here is our solution. Change the crafting process, and all other tedious processes that people use bots for. You see how this works? No Legit player has to worry about being banned, and the people that bot really have no excuse to bot anymore, unless they were extremely lazy and have no sense of accmplishment, which in general, shouldnt even matter to you.

By the way Vedis, the main problem is that there isn't any special task force or GMs to investigate. The only other way is to just suggest a new crafting process. This won't only reduce the number of botters, but it will also be made more suitable for the rest of the playerbase.

Also, Gracious, it was a misunderstanding, sorry about that.

because those players are immature and dont want a conversation, they want to troll, and argue, and see how pissed off they can make everyone

The only reason anyone would get pissed off is because they are not looking at this as a discussion, but rather an arguement, and of course, everyone wants to be the one who is right. In a discussion, people normally through in reasons why some ideas wont work. I have yet to see anyone give me a good reason why a Crafting Process revamp will reduce the amount of botters.

[Gracious]

because those players are immature and dont want a conversation, they want to troll, and argue, and see how pissed off they can make everyone

This makes me sad ; ;

[Kurokikaze]

because those players are immature and dont want a conversation, they want to troll, and argue, and see how pissed off they can make everyone

How can you say that with the stance you've taken on the matter. You wont even budge an inch to the center yet you say the others don't want a conversation. Hypocrisy.

Nuru and I were having a decent conversation until you guys ruined it. Whos trolling?

trololol

[darkstarpoet1]

Yes, we are all extremely against them. We've covered this. None of us think it is okay to bot. That is not what this game is or how it is supposed to be played.

We gave away the reason why people bot, is because the crafting process is tedious, and other systems are the same way, but crafting in general is way too tedious.

Now that we've covered the root of the problem, here is our solution. Change the crafting process, and all other tedious processes that people use bots for. You see how this works? No Legit player has to worry about being banned, and the people that bot really have no excuse to bot anymore, unless they were extremely lazy and have no sense of accmplishment, which in general, shouldnt even matter to you.

i have to disagree here. no matter how much they change crafting for people to enjoy it even more the people that bot just to hit max rank will do so regardless of how much fun the rest of us have. the best method is just to ban the cheaters that are cheating.

[TheVedis]

Yes, we are all extremely against them. We've covered this. None of us think it is okay to bot. That is not what this game is or how it is supposed to be played.

We gave away the reason why people bot, is because the crafting process is tedious, and other systems are the same way, but crafting in general is way too tedious.

Now that we've covered the root of the problem, here is our solution. Change the crafting process, and all other tedious processes that people use bots for. You see how this works? No Legit player has to worry about being banned, and the people that bot really have no excuse to bot anymore, unless they were extremely lazy and have no sense of accmplishment, which in general, shouldnt even matter to you.

changing it is only a temp solution unfortunately, people who are going to bot will still bot(and its not just crafting they will do it in, they do it in all aspects of the game)
me, i wouldnt mind it being made easier, itd help me finish off the rest of my crafts

[Azurymber]

Some people actually like the crafting system. From what I hear the whole grinding-ness of it is fairly attractive to japanese players. Personally I kinda enjoy it. It's boring by itself but fun to do when watching university lectures or netflix. Saying "people bot because the system sucks" isn't a good argument because there are alternatives in the game like levelling dow/dom. If crafting is too tedious and boring then don't craft. Wasn't that the point of the game in the first place? That people could choose different jobs to -MAIN- so if you didn't like crafting you could just stick to dom/dow?

[Kurokikaze]

changing it is only a temp solution unfortunately, people who are going to bot will still bot(and its not just crafting they will do it in, they do it in all aspects of the game)
me, i wouldnt mind it being made easier, itd help me finish off the rest of my crafts

Then you ban the people that continue to bot after the fact (which will be far less than before if done right). Why is this a hard concept?