AF+1 Costs WAY Too Much

[MrSmiley]

when new content with better gear is released, it should be simple to raise the cap and allow the previous gear to be gotten at an increased rate

[Churchill]

Play any class on one character

>>Never gear a second class

[Tobalito]

Yes it will take 5 months of nothing but AK. Yea, lets forget the fact that Crystal Tower is coming out which will most likely give ToM. Oh and the fact that hard mode dungeons are coming , 2 next patch to give more things to run, 5 months down the line there will be even more instances, oh but yea AK for 5 months is what the game comes down to.

[Krisan]

Excessive use of memes aside. I think you're missing the point somewhat. Endgame is suppose to be a time sink, all MMO's are like that.
Also uh.. I doubt that in five months time we'll still only have AK as a dungeon to run for this stuff.. They're releasing more dungeons as time goes by, not to mention raising the level cap at some point. The game for all intents and purposes, isn't finished. While yes there's not a lot else to do right NOW, the game hasn't even been out a month yet.. the fact we already are capable of making the progress we have is kinda insane by MMO standards. Just wait and see what else they release in the coming months. I'm positive we'll be seeing more ways to get tomestones.

[Churchill]

Yes it will take 5 months of nothing but AK. Yea, lets forget the fact that Crystal Tower is coming out which will most likely give ToM. Oh and the fact that hard mode dungeons are coming , 2 next patch to give more things to run, 5 months down the line there will be even more instances, oh but yea AK for 5 months is what the game comes down to.

AK for 2 months, content 10 levels below current content for unknown number of months.

And that's only if they manage to stay on schedule...lol.

[Nihility]

did you include the 900 mythology stones it takes to +1 the matching relic weapon for each class?

the limited source and weekly max allowed on something you need for pretty much everything is kind of blah

[Melithea]

AF+1 is so casual gamers can get geared too.

There's nothing casual about this requirement. Five months isn't a grind, it's a sentence. I like the AF sets because I want to look like a White Mage. God help me if I decide to play Scholar too!

If I do something full time for five months I'd better either be getting paid, or having fun. This is neither.

[Reika]

Yes it will take 5 months of nothing but AK. Yea, lets forget the fact that Crystal Tower is coming out which will most likely give ToM. Oh and the fact that hard mode dungeons are coming , 2 next patch to give more things to run, 5 months down the line there will be even more instances, oh but yea AK for 5 months is what the game comes down to.

They can give more things to run, but still limited to 300 mythologies a week. I would think differently if the armor they give for it were multi class/job usabe like the stuff you get out of winding coils, but thats only the jewelry. Getting mythology armor means getting something for 1 job. It is a way to turn a "do all classes game" into a "you really only have 1 good class" game, unless you skipped to winding coils (which is apparently not that hard - just practice).

Imo they broke things (as usuabl) by having winding coils drop ilvl90. Should have been ilvl80, and crystal tower for 90. jimo. Would give more meaning to the long grind for af2/relic+1 from tokens as well.

Play any class on one character

>>Never gear a second class

This I believe is what they are aiming for.

[Waliel]

The way I see it, they're meant to supplement your Crystal Tower and Coil loot. That way you can get at least something if you're unlucky with the drops, and you can maybe progress just a tad faster with the extra piece of gear.

Source on the ilvl80 from crystal tower?

And if it is I wouldn't be surprised. SE is infamous for piss poor balancing. They'd release Ilvl90 8 man content, then ilvl80 24m content, then next would probably be an ilvl70 24m content.

Crystal Tower was supposed to be available at realease and it really is meant to be done before Coil, but it got pushed back for DF balancing reasons, if I'm not mistaken.

[Buddhsie]

This game is super easy. If you played XI then you'd probably think things need to be far more difficult to obtain than they currently are.

If you have the time, do more different things rather than just 8 Amdapor runs a week. If you don't, then it's up to you how to spend your time. You can't tell me that people who work (like myself at 56 hours a week) can't go bash out 8 Amdapor runs on a single day off. People making out like doing 8 runs a week is difficult or super time consuming.. Really..

There's nothing wrong with taking time to get something, in fact, I think it's balanced quite well for casuals and hard cores. Go run coil if you want more ilvl 90 gear right nao!!