AF+1 Costs WAY Too Much

[Abraxis]

Well looking at the numbers required to get a full set has me confused. It's either wrong, which i doubt it is but don't know since i'm not 50, or the numbers really ARE too high. I'm all for putting forth effort and time into some badass items that are the top of their slots...but 5 months is a long time. And at the rate that SE and Yoshi want to release content, unless that Relic and AF+1 gear is STILL better than whatever Raids or higher iLvl dungeons are released it's a two fold problem. 1. The dungeon loot is pointless to obtain since the Relic and AF+1 is better, so people will continue to run the new dungeons assuming they drop Myth tomes, with crap gear, or 2. The drops in the new dungeons/raids are better making that 5 month grind totally pointless to do unless you REALLY just want the gear just for completion sake. Which is fine i suppose, since i'm the first to go do old content for cool looking stuff.

[Joji]

A question for you people playing this MMO, do you plan playing this for more than 5 months?
If so, stop complaining. Not everything is time saving and convenient. Get used to it!
This coming from a Legacy player who started a new character and is by no means in any rush to get to the end quickly.
Because that's the thing with MMO's, there is no end.. really!

[GilbertLapine]

A question for you people playing this MMO, do you plan playing this for more than 5 months?
If so, stop complaining. Not everything is time saving and convenient. Get used to it!
This coming from a Legacy player who started a new character and is by no means in any rush to get to the end quickly.
Because that's the thing with MMO's, there is no end.. really!

I had planned on playing for the long run, though this has me rethinking my decision. In order to 'finish' a single class, anyone with a job and a life has to spend 90-100% of their daily game time in a dungeon/LFP/DF, with little opportunity for working on subclasses, crafting, or community building. It's also a crapshoot for gil production unless you're taking the hit in stats to equip cheap white equips you can assimilate later for cash. So... that'll gimp a lot of players that decide to take time for gil farming when housing comes out as well.

So many people posting here seem to be blind to the fact that a) there's more to do in the game than grind Amdapor Keep, and b) (allegedly) there is more content forthcoming that isn't even dungeon-based (i.e., housing, PvP Frontline, etc.).

I would turn the question to you, then, and ask: do you plan on only playing until you get your equips, then quit? If so, what was the point of getting them in the first place? Do you have so little imagination that you can't play an MMO unless you're spoon fed progression? Because that's the thing with MMO's there is no end.. really! Unless.. you QQ once you get your end gear, that is.

[Joji]

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I believe that all the casual players who has been whining from day 1 (the majority) to put more content, easier and more convenient systems in place in order for this game to succeed doesn't really know what they want because they now play the role of what they claim they wasn't. Which is hardcore rushing gamers.

Man, I'm 1 month into the game soon, I have been here since the dawn of this game.
I stick with it even though SE went for the WOW model, this doesn't mean I don't have a patience meter. But this constant mass whining once something grand takes time really makes me wonder, what the hell are you even doing playing an MMO if you sit there and calculate how long time it takes.

[Madruk]

If it we're that easy to get there would be no point to doing other things like Coil. Even CT that's coming out in 2.1 is supposed to be ilvl80ish. The AF +1 is meant to supplement or fill in gaps in your current gear that you don't get from the RNG chests.

I agree though, only one viable end game dungeon to actually get said myth tomestones outside of Coil needs to be addressed. This seems more like throwing a bone to people that either can't spend the time to do the higher end content or aren't able to complete it.

[GilbertLapine]

If it we're that easy to get there would be no point to doing other things like Coil. Even CT that's coming out in 2.1 is supposed to be ilvl80ish. The AF +1 is meant to supplement or fill in gaps in your current gear that you don't get from the RNG chests.

I agree though, only one viable end game dungeon to actually get said myth tomestones outside of Coil needs to be addressed. This seems more like throwing a bone to people that either can't spend the time to do the higher end content or aren't able to complete it.

I gotta ask then, if this is the case why is it so damn hard to get? If it's just a gap filler, it shouldn't be so insanely troublesome to attain.

Also, it's rather disturbing how many people equate the game's "difficulty" and overall fun-factor with how many times you have to repeat existing content to move on. I dunno, I've always seen such filler repeat content as a cop out, not a value add. I mean, I've enjoyed the relic quests because they're so insanely difficult, and force you to master them (it's incredibly satisfying to spank Ifrit HM and Garuda HM, at least for me -- still working on Titan), but the tomestone requirements just insult to the intelligence of the player community at large.

[MeowyWowie]

OP is right, it's pretty ridiculous how long it takes to get this armor. Also, why are we able to get ilvl90 gear from ilv55(?) dungeons?

To those posting in here that say the OP just wants it to be easy to obtain this gear, what the hell is so hard about it now? I'd so much rather see them remove the weekly mythology cap and remove mythology tokens from everything but titan and coil, or even just coil. This "everyone deserves to get the best gear in the game at the same speed as everyone else" crap just irks me to hell. And yes, a lot of the AF2 beats allagan gear, so it's BiS in many cases, and faceroll-easy to farm.

[silentwindfr]

the trouble is not the fact to farm, that ok, but the time needed to get this equipement.
normally the patch will come out at a rythm to 2-2.5 month means in the same times a person will have get the full set for him main class 2 patch will have hit the game with the add of content and so... that a huge problem.

time consuming, ok... but this time is way too much.

[KogaDrake]

You do realize that AK isnt the place your primarily supposed to get Mytho tomestones right? Just like DD isnt the place you go to get phylos tomestones.

They are to supplement you loot, and will see them in the tower and likely in coil also. They supplement your time to ensure you are getting some loot if your luck does not go well with roll/DKP on better/equal drops in the actual RAIDs.

The game JUST released and we dont have the 1st raid yet and your worried about the currency thats for gear equal to the raid after the one we dont even have yet..

Its just like running AK for darklight, you get some ilv60 drops and work on the parts you dont already have with darklioght first. Its same with AF2 or AF+1 as you call it and the RAIDs

[Lucipurr]

What the hell? I saw a guy with an AF+1 this morning...?! Did he no-life or exploit/hack?