AF+1 Costs WAY Too Much

[Sebastien]

These days MMO's usually offer two ways to get really good gear.

One is to obtain it in the highest raids or dungeons. The other is to grind (for this purpose, crafted gear counts as grind, since you need to grind Gil to get it).

By design, the grind route is much more time consuming. It's by design because the game wants to encourage you to raid for your gear. The grind gear is offered as an alternative for those who don't raid.

The bottom line - why do you need AF+1? If you want to play casually, play casually. AF+1 is not required for that.

[Draemos]

Prices for AF1 are fine, they're suppose the be the welfare version level 90s for people that don't do Bahamuts coil. They should take a long time to get.

Now the limited number of options to earn Mythology tokens is a huge problem. Nobody wants to run Amdapor Keep 8x a week for 5 months straight...

[Laiyenu]

Just make it drop from coil SE then we can see some real whining.

[PandaPause]

This is common practice for SE to make you work for months on a single item or a set of gear. It took me 4 months to build a relic weapon in FFXI only to have it obsolete by SE introducing new weapons in an expansion. I was ok w/ that because I had felt I accomplished something other players either didn't or even attempt. For me its what makes the game fun and keeps me logging in everyday.

[HazyMoon]

I remember when it took me 6 months of farming Black Temple to finally get the bow from Illidan to drop.

6 months (yes, from July to Jan.) of farming Illidan to get 1 bow drop for me - that was the first time our guild saw a bow drop from him.

So 5 months for a full set of gear, that's actually not too bad considering what I've farmed in the past.

Welcome to MMOs.

[Etgar]

I'm not going to read all the post, but I'm going to assume you know about BC, that has gear as good if not better than AF2(it's af2 btw not +1).
So lets say you're a pally, the shield, chest, boots and neck drop from turn 1. That's 1995 saved, that you can use for the weapon, wrist, gloves and head with 30 myth saved.

[DeadlySwordz]

Welcome to an MMO that is not WoW. If you want to get geared quick and easily, you should go back there

[Assista]

is AF+1 also called AF2 ? or are they different sets?

[Eldaena]

I'm glad everyone posting has so much stamina to do the same thing over and over again. At least SE should give us some other dungeons. I'm already to the point of falling asleep in AK because it is that boring. That's not HARDCORE, it's just a grind. If we're gonna grind at least keep it interesting SE. I don't care if it takes 5 months to get it, but doing the same thing is just stale. I think people might have a better chance of getting all the gear in bahamut's coil in 5 months though, so I'm not even sure if the AF+1 is worth it...

[Balaur]

I'm glad everyone posting has so much stamina to do the same thing over and over again. At least SE should give us some other dungeons. I'm already to the point of falling asleep in AK because it is that boring. That's not HARDCORE, it's just a grind. If we're gonna grind at least keep it interesting SE. I don't care if it takes 5 months to get it, but doing the same thing is just stale. I think people might have a better chance of getting all the gear in bahamut's coil in 5 months though, so I'm not even sure if the AF+1 is worth it...

How much is "over and over again?"

I'm interested to know what the "Goldilocks zone" is between content that doesn't engage you very long versus content that forces you to stay engaged with it over a long period of time. How long is "long"? How much is "engagement" with the dungeon? Should there be more tangible rewards, and if so what? Should there be rewards other than trash drops (bits of bone, hide, etc.) or gil?