Stunbot is NOT fun

[Prince_Myshkin]

I'm not even sure if this is in the right category, because being a stunbot has nothing to do with tanking. Regardless, as it is a duty set to paladins, and paladins are tanks, I'll post it here.

This mechanic seriously has to go, or be drastically minimized. The fate of an 8-man group should NOT rest on one person at regular intervals throughout fight. It is unfair. It is also not fun in the slightest. I really do not like fervently looking at my UI like a tweaker waiting for the right skill name to pop.

Just before writing this I did Ifrit HM. I main tanked while the other PLD stunbotted. We got Ifrit down to 20% when the PLD missed an eruption interrupt. The PLD did perfectly fine until that eruption. The group wiped, yelled at PLD, and everyone left. I really don't think one person should suffer the weight of the entire group's wrath.

I'm sure some people think that other responsibilities are so single member intensive. I don't think so. The BLM level 3 limit break, for example, occurs only once during the group, and the BLM has more time than 0.5 seconds to respond. A PLD has to interrupt once every minute or so with 0.5 seconds response. If the PLD has a bad internet connection, the ENTIRE group is SOL.

The responsibility also shows up out of nowhere. Pre-50 there is no stunbot. Your conception of a paladin does not include stunbotting. Post-50 you are handed an extremely stressful responsibility and expected to perform perfectly or else screw over entire groups.

I'm sure I'm going to get a "roll another class" response, but I'm not going to change my decision over which class I want to play because of some insane mechanic. I like to tank, and I'm a good tank. I don't like to stunbot, and the mechanic needs to be removed, ASAP.I'm not even sure if this is in the right category, because being a stunbot has nothing to do with tanking. Regardless, as it is a duty set to paladins, and paladins are tanks, I'll post it here.

[Ruminate]

Eruption has a cast time of about 2s and the animation time Shield Bash to land its stun is ~0.5s. If we factor in human reaction time, a PLD's latency would need to be over 1200ms to fail at interrupts.

[Prince_Myshkin]

Eruption has a cast time of about 2s and the animation time Shield Bash to land its stun is ~0.5s. If we factor in human reaction time, a PLD's latency would need to be over 1200ms to fail at interrupts.

It's not just about latency. Everyone also needs to be watching for other skills the boss is using (not just Ifrit).

What I'm more concerned about rather than feasibility is the lack of fun the role has. It is not fun AT ALL (for me, and I imagine for a lot of other people). Who the hell wants to use one skill during a 5 min fight?

[Prince_Myshkin]

Also, for a game that is generally about slower combat so that you can use your skills wisely, having such a twitch based mechanic seems out of place.

[Ruminate]

It's not just about latency. Everyone also needs to be watching for other skills the boss is using (not just Ifrit).

What I'm more concerned about rather than feasibility is the lack of fun the role has. It is not fun AT ALL (for me, and I imagine a lot of other people). Who the hell wants to use one skill during a 5 min fight?

Who says you can only use 1 skill during a 5 min fight? Ifrit's eruptions are on a pattern. Learn it and use any skill you want inbetween.

[MomoOG]

I strongly agree. I have not reached hard mode Ifrit yet but have seen a complete video of the encounter. The stun bot role was the stupidest thing I could have imagined. Part of the problem is how horribly the interrupt mechanic is implemented. Either long cool down stuns or stuns on gcd which are both horrible ideas when a boss fight REQUIRES constant interrupting.

[Sziadan]

Actually, ifrit hm is doable even without someone stunning ifrit. Though PUGs would generally not accept it since the fight is a lot easier when it do get interrupted.
Personally, I never trust a random player when it comes to that so I move from eruption regardless if it got interrupted or not and I would advice everyone to do that.. That way you wont wipe if 1 gets through. Though it also depends on which one that gets through and where everyone was standing..

If you do not like that duty then I would suggest that you try to get a static party for ifrit instead and either have another pld with you that takes on that duty or just try to kill him without stun.

[Prince_Myshkin]

Actually, ifrit hm is doable even without someone stunning ifrit. Though PUGs would generally not accept it since the fight is a lot easier when it do get interrupted.
Personally, I never trust a random player when it comes to that so I move from eruption regardless if it got interrupted or not and I would advice everyone to do that.. That way you wont wipe if 1 gets through. Though it also depends on which one that gets through and where everyone was standing..

If you do not like that duty then I would suggest that you try to get a static party for ifrit instead and either have another pld with you that takes on that duty or just try to kill him without stun.

Yeah I know you can do it without, but PUGs demand it, as you said.

I think an one solution would be to take shield bash off global cooldown and give it a 20-30 second cooldown. Or just make bosses immune to it. I'd prefer the later.

[Ruminate]

If you want it off GCD, then its animation time better be increased to 1.5s to compensate.

[Holyhunter]

Why is 1 eruption wiping your entire group?