If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

[Awake]

The Mainpoint is, most of the european üplayers cannot avoid the big fat red zones fast enough trough pingspikes at 400 - 2500, thats a mere hell to play.
And i think Swiftcast is a good Spell and any Mageclass that use ist knows how good it is but it is not an must have aside you are an player from Europe, or have some in group

The real heavy hitting AoE attacks takes a significant time to be cast from the bosses...like 3 sec in most scenarios so even if you have a 1000ms ping you will still be able to avoid it.Problem with 90% of them DPS classes is that tehy tunnel vision on their rotation and thus fail to avoid such attacks.

[Neoiceman]

The real heavy hitting AoE attacks takes a significant time to be cast from the bosses...like 3 sec in most scenarios so even if you have a 1000ms ping you will still be able to avoid it.Problem with 90% of them DPS classes is that tehy tunnel vision on their rotation and thus fail to avoid such attacks.

No it is not.
Let us think we have an lagspike from 2000ms than you have an reaktion- and movingtime about 1 second, you know what that mean? Yeah dead from Lag.
You ran out of the Zone stand still cast an Heal, than the Boss fire the Megaspell and you die 20m away from the Zone

[Awake]

No it is not.
Let us think we have an lagspike from 2000ms than you have an reaktion- and movingtime about 1 second, you know what that mean? Yeah dead from Lag.
You ran out of the Zone stand still cast an Heal, than the Boss fire the Megaspell and you die 20m away from the Zone

I will turn the table around now...if you have 2000ms ping you are holding back your team at endgame.And most probably even more than a WHM not havieng Swiftcast.

I am not saying Swiftcast is not helpfull, but saying it is required in order to kill endgame content is just silly to say the least.

[Sove92]

I will turn the table around now...if you have 2000ms ping you are holding back your team at endgame.And most probably even more than a WHM not havieng Swiftcast.

I am not saying Swiftcast is not helpfull, but saying it is required in order to kill endgame content is just silly to say the least.

You're saying you should not do endgame if you have a high ping, which is something you 99% of the time have no control over? Who are you to deny a right a player paid for? A good party can adapt to lag by expecting a laggy player to get hit and prepare for that.

And the party of a person with 2000ms ping also paid for the right not to have said person in their group. It's your right to attempt end-game content but you're not entitled to having the entire party compensate for your crappy latency unless it was agreed upon in the first place.

If you are using DF, you have no say over the party members. If you make a custom party, then the leader has a say.

[hours]

You're saying you should not do endgame if you have a high ping, which is something you 99% of the time have no control over? Who are you to deny a right a player paid for? A good party can adapt to lag by expecting a laggy player to get hit and prepare for that.

And the party of a person with 2000ms ping also paid for the right not to have said person in their group. It's your right to attempt end-game content but you're not entitled to having the entire party compensate for your crappy latency unless it was agreed upon in the first place.

If you are using DF, you have no say over the party members. If you make a custom party, then the leader has a say.

My point is, exactly, you have no say over other party members. If others do not agree with you in any way, they can leave.

[Awake]

You're saying you should not do endgame if you have a high ping, which is something you 99% of the time have no control over? Who are you to deny a right a player paid for? A good party can adapt to lag by expecting a laggy player to get hit and prepare for that.

I tihnk you have a problem with reading.I never said you should not do endgame...

I dont even understand how can you play with ping above 300ms, i know i wouldnt no matter how much i like the game in question.

[Neoiceman]

I will turn the table around now...if you have 2000ms ping you are holding back your team at endgame.And most probably even more than a WHM not havieng Swiftcast.

I am not saying Swiftcast is not helpfull, but saying it is required in order to kill endgame content is just silly to say the least.

I think you are hitting your head really hard.
I dont want that ping and i dont want to play on laggy US Server at all, but i must, SE says that are not enough player in US and EU to have an own Serverpark.
We are forced to play with such an shitty ping and we know that we holding back our US friends we play with, we Europeans have a lot of trouble to clear endgamecontent, i see videos from japanese or US Partys that slay down Ifrit, Titan and other Endgamesucker without an problem and not the half of the equip needed we europeans need.

Its hard to believe but a Japanes Company like the US more and fucked us gemans really hard

[AsakuraVN]

The real heavy hitting AoE attacks takes a significant time to be cast from the bosses...like 3 sec in most scenarios so even if you have a 1000ms ping you will still be able to avoid it.Problem with 90% of them DPS classes is that tehy tunnel vision on their rotation and thus fail to avoid such attacks.

Have you ever tried playing the game at 600ms? Let alone 1000ms? Avoiding AoE isn't as easy as taking several steps outside of the zone, but running really far away to ensure 100% dodge, & a lot of times it's not even working. It isn't the players' fault, it's the game coding for syncing player's position on server's side, while most MMOs are client's side. So ppl have to live with it & be prepared for it, rather than letting the whole pt wipe just because no one can insta-raiseLoading...