If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

[BrainWoodstock]

There are no one shoot bosses out there right know, so if a DD dies its his fault, not the healers. also spending 800 mana points on a person that cant even avoid something is a waste never the less. Swiftcast is nice but not a must have.

[Neoiceman]

OP just learn to play and stop dying to avoidable damage.It's that simple, and yeah i am being blunt here.

The Mainpoint is, most of the european üplayers cannot avoid the big fat red zones fast enough trough pingspikes at 400 - 2500, thats a mere hell to play.
And i think Swiftcast is a good Spell and any Mageclass that use ist knows how good it is but it is not an must have aside you are an player from Europe, or have some in group

[BrainWoodstock]

The Mainpoint is, most of the european üplayers cannot avoid the big fat red zones fast enough trough pingspikes at 400 - 2500, thats a mere hell to play.
And i think Swiftcast is a good Spell and any Mageclass that use ist knows how good it is but it is not an must have aside you are an player from Europe, or have some in group

Thats alos not right we have not the best ping but im still able to avoid everything, maybe not the goo from the first boss in wanderes palace but every other spell i can.

[Duelle]

If I'm casting raise YOU are doing it wrong. you show me a fight with a guaranteed 1 shot to someone (every time) and I'll agree with you though.

This. Combat rez is more in case someone messed up bad. The day they implement something along the lines of hard mode Steelbreaker's Overwhelming Power => Meltdown combo (the fight is designed to push the raid's DPS by guaranteeing tank deaths, as Meltdown insta-kills the tank and is unavoidable), the OP might have a valid point.

[Awake]

The Mainpoint is, most of the european üplayers cannot avoid the big fat red zones fast enough trough pingspikes at 400 - 2500, thats a mere hell to play.
And i think Swiftcast is a good Spell and any Mageclass that use ist knows how good it is but it is not an must have aside you are an player from Europe, or have some in group

The real heavy hitting AoE attacks takes a significant time to be cast from the bosses...like 3 sec in most scenarios so even if you have a 1000ms ping you will still be able to avoid it.Problem with 90% of them DPS classes is that tehy tunnel vision on their rotation and thus fail to avoid such attacks.

[Warlyx]

swiftcast + raise is amazing tool , incombat instant rez

even the best player make mistakes , or have lag spikes u know , dying doesnt mean u are an horrible player that must not be raised.

[Sove92]

Thats alos not right we have not the best ping but im still able to avoid everything, maybe not the goo from the first boss in wanderes palace but every other spell i can.

I can dodge most AoEs, but Ifrit's Eruption (the Eruption barrage after middle plumes in 3rd phase in HM is a nightmare if the stun fails) and Titan's Landslide are still a problem. Magitek Cannon used by Reapers is also unavoidable if it's centered on me, it can't kill me from full health, though. There are quite a few more AoEs I can't dodge if I'm in the center of them, but thankfully they are not instadeaths to BLMs.

even the best player make mistakes , or have lag spikes u know , dying doesnt mean u are an horrible player that must not be raised.

This is true. I don't claim to be one of the best, but when things get chaotic enough, you need to start focusing on many things at once, and let's face it, no real person can truly focus on more than one thing at once.

[AsakuraVN]

OP's manner aside, if you're playing as WHM, SMN, or SCH, swiftcast is a must, especially when playing with DF groups, or you & your entire FC are from the 3rd world, with 1-2s delay in every AoE. In those cases your personal skill doesn't really matter, in fact, it requires even more skill to survive, and dying is normal for them...

I've been through a lot of situations where the pt wouldn't have wiped if the other healers/arcanists had swiftcast like me, it could have saved 2-3 dead people in an instant, there's just no reason for them to say not to get it cause their personal skill is good enough and it's not their fault people dies...
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[GilbertLapine]

Why shouldn't you attempt it? It's not like the world is going to end if you try and fail. It's a game after all. That's how you learn. Swiftcast is definitely good to have, but when I hit 50, no way I'm going to wait for another 26 levels before trying endgame.

This is why they call it Derp Finder.

[Malix]

If I'm casting raise YOU are doing it wrong. you show me a fight with a guaranteed 1 shot to someone (every time) and I'll agree with you though.

Raise by its nature was designed to keep the fight going in case something goes wrong. No one is perfect and there are cases that exist where something unexpected happens in a fight. This is the last thing i would want to hear from a Healer ESPECIALLY in progression raiding.

The real heavy hitting AoE attacks takes a significant time to be cast from the bosses...like 3 sec in most scenarios so even if you have a 1000ms ping you will still be able to avoid it.Problem with 90% of them DPS classes is that tehy tunnel vision on their rotation and thus fail to avoid such attacks.

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