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  1. #11
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    Shamirah's Avatar
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    Shamirah Zullya
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 59
    You guys are so clueless and btw there are several posts about summoners.

    And summoner's dps is high.
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  2. #12
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    Nemhy Viteri
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    You guys are so clueless and btw there are several posts about summoners.

    And summoner's dps is high.
    Not trying to argue with you, but you honestly just sound like you're saying "sorry you're wrong." then saying nothing to back up your claims.
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  3. #13
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    Seyon Masters
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    Adamantoise
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamirah View Post
    You guys are so clueless and btw there are several posts about summoners.

    And summoner's dps is high.
    i believe they are actually on the higher end honestly if played well. But i have to agree, most of us would rather facts when being told we are wrong rather than "cuz i said so" or "cuz my buddy ray ray said so"
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  4. #14
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    Virtual On
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Not trying to argue with you, but you honestly just sound like you're saying "sorry you're wrong." then saying nothing to back up your claims.
    There's nothing anyone can say at this point to back up claims besides pointing to experience.

    So far, only really good MNKs and BRDs have been able to out damage(threat) me. Average ones still lose. This is assuming that, for a DPS class, we have no + or - enmity mechanics for our attacks.
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  5. #15
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    Hov Rp
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by tn2389 View Post
    The dps meter is great but its currently riddled with bugs dots are simulated because the game doesnt show the ticks in the battle log. A recent update broke summoner dots bad. Look for yourself Ruin is an 80 potency nuke bio is a 40 potency tick. Your avg ruin hit was 160 your avg bio tick is 236. I dont know what is causing the bug but it was saying my friend was doing 500dps with his bio 1 ticking for 1k.

    Summoners have their upsides but no one really knows where people stand for kings of the dps because we dont have a reliable parser. But what good is the data on that app if youre not dissecting it to make yourself better instead of inflating your epeen.
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    Last edited by Hov; 09-10-2013 at 04:01 AM.

  6. #16
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    Seyon Masters
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    Adamantoise
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    There's nothing anyone can say at this point to back up claims besides pointing to experience.

    So far, only really good MNKs and BRDs have been able to out damage(threat) me. Average ones still lose. This is assuming that, for a DPS class, we have no + or - enmity mechanics for our attacks.
    btw you understand that threat and DPS are not near the same? Easily tested, an archer can do half the dps of a lancer and be higher on threat (literally half).

    Buffs are a large part of this. they generate a set amount of threat to everyone in the room, any buff that effects others also gives threat to everyone for each other person.
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  7. #17
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    Thotor's Avatar
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    FFXIV-App is bugged.
    DoTs do not work Except Bio and Bio II. And I believe Bio II takes damage count from DoTs from everyone else in party.
    Look at other class and see their DoTs total.
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  8. #18
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    Malakaz Vosoma
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    There's nothing anyone can say at this point to back up claims besides pointing to experience.

    So far, only really good MNKs and BRDs have been able to out damage(threat) me. Average ones still lose. This is assuming that, for a DPS class, we have no + or - enmity mechanics for our attacks.
    You really use threat to measure dps? Huh that means I am the best dps in the game considering I destroy people when it comes to threat. I recall many times pulling threat from the tank or being close to it.

    Threat does not measure how much dps you do.
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  9. #19
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    Virtual On
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
    You really use threat to measure dps? Huh that means I am the best dps in the game considering I destroy people when it comes to threat. I recall many times pulling threat from the tank or being close to it.

    Threat does not measure how much dps you do.
    As of right now it's the best measure, and you don't take any single instance of it. Over a period of runs, if you're generally always #2, you know you're doing something right.
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  10. #20
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    As of right now it's the best measure, and you don't take any single instance of it. Over a period of runs, if you're generally always #2, you know you're doing something right.
    Totally agree, maybe the best way to know the real dps atm.
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