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    Ayvar Bjornstad
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    Scholar Lv 50
    I dont have enough to say that they fully outdps us or we outdps them as a while, but bards do get TONS of threat. Testing it, my GF was able to do almost half my damage and still have more threat than me. I can only guess this is based on how many buffs they constantly use (each buff has a set amount of threat, songs are even moreso as each target buffed is a set amount of threat).

    Many people show bards as the top DPS, personally in my experience monks are, but both of these are based on examples seen, not enough sample sizes to really say anything about it.
    xyaie and his ever changing avatar as he acquires more gear is correct. The issue with attempting to assess what class does what dps is that there is no currently reliable method of doing so. You can't use threat meters, dps parsers are currently the best method but they are estimating DoT damage and not actually measuring it, and peoples gear is so widely different that it makes comparisons essentially impossible (for now). Until the data gets cleaned up, which probably won't happen for quite awhile (or until SE allows mods), your best bet is to optimize yourself as best you can and try to find the class you enjoy playing. If you enjoy playing the class with the highest dps, well then no one will have any good answers for you other than "lol summs are shit" and "omg no summs are amazing you're an idiot" rinse repeat x40million.

    Quote Originally Posted by xyaie View Post
    Not sure what it says about me, but its really getting to me that I cant contribute more to this conversation . As is I only have an hour or two a day to play and use it for things other than testing. Ill get an off day sooner or later!

    Great work guys. (Not sure if both are guys..)
    Considering what you did for the stat weights I'd say you've already done quite a bit. Right now on my end it's difficult to make anymore progress than I already have until I see Titan HM and Coil, which will probably be awhile.

    Also I added your stat numbers to the second section of the guide (with credit) so people can get to them easily. If you have any adjustments to make to them (or any info on accuracy!) let me know and I'll edit that section for you.
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    Seyon Masters
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    Considering what you did for the stat weights I'd say you've already done quite a bit. Right now on my end it's difficult to make anymore progress than I already have until I see Titan HM and Coil, which will probably be awhile.

    Also I added your stat numbers to the second section of the guide (with credit) so people can get to them easily. If you have any adjustments to make to them (or any info on accuracy!) let me know and I'll edit that section for you.
    Lol, I wish it was acquiring gear. dragoon is 50. If a 50 logs out they don't get rested xp so I log out as other classes.

    The stat weights were napkin math compared to you two's work. EasymodeX mentioned a spreadsheet and im curious about it. My plan was to Tuesday make one for all the classes where you can put in your stats and get the weights adjusted to what you currently have. Then try to get where I can put in rotations and get a full traditional "you get x amount of dps with y stats and z rotation"
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