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  1. #101
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    El Raato
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    I wrote ticket to support and this was the answer:

    "Greetings,

    Thank you for contacting FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn support.
    Thank you for wanting to make sure you are not exploiting our systems.

    As of now there have been no official announcements that this problem is counted as an exploit. However this does not mean that it will not be counted as one in the future.

    We would therefore ask you to be cautious and not try to use it in the meantime.

    Thank you for your understanding in this matter and we wish you a very nice day.
    Kind regards,

    The FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn GM team"

    Theres your answer, now stop fighting.
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  2. #102
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    Loxius Montaque
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    While it may not be an exploit it shouldn't be done like this, you put trash mob in there that needs the be fought before you get to the boss, If everyone does speedruns then no other dungeons will be done anymore simply cause this is the best and fastest way.
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  3. #103
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    Yunaa Lesca
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    I'm on the fence regarding things like this.Is it or isn't it? I'm leaning more towards it is, since people are using this method as a way to farm gear faster, exploiting mechanics to gain an upper hand over other players who wish to stay legit. It's not a huge issue but something which I very much disagree with.

    The repercussions of this though will harm others, you will get elitist type players calling you noob and throwing insults at you if you choose to kill everything.This then causes people to stop playing their role or stop playing all together. It will then be a downward slope as people find more and more ways to "exploit" game mechanics to their advantage while bullying those who choose to do it the "hard" way. For me, it should be fixed to keep the game neutral and fair across the board. Just my 2 cents.
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  4. #104
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    Astralis Luneglade
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    Then again, if they change the mechanics right now, people who havent had the chance to do this so called fast run will probably rage and cry because it is unfair that others gets to do it.

    Specially now that se is still having problems with their log ins and servers.
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  5. #105
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    Adri Takamorita
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    Are you serious? wow........ what a dork.
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  6. #106
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    OP and people who agree probably can't speed run the dungeon themselves so they must ruin other's ability to do so.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eijii View Post
    OP and people who agree probably can't speed run the dungeon themselves so they must ruin other's ability to do so.
    In actual fact it is your type that are ruining it for the rest of us. May I point your attention to another thread on the issue, where people actually leave because the tank is new!?!?! he gets laughed at and everything because he doesn't know the "speed run", fair? no!!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ruin-this-game
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  8. #108
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    Shael Etona
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    Quote Originally Posted by animapain View Post
    In actual fact it is your type that are ruining it for the rest of us. May I point your attention to another thread on the issue, where people actually leave because the tank is new!?!?! he gets laughed at and everything because he doesn't know the "speed run", fair? no!!

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ruin-this-game
    Since when was anything in this world "fair". If you don't want to use it find some like minded people and dont use it. Have some self control people. You don't have to use it just because it's an option.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shael View Post
    Since when was anything in this world "fair". If you don't want to use it find some like minded people and dont use it. Have some self control people. You don't have to use it just because it's an option.
    Really? you're comparing real life to a video game? Video games are designed to be fair and equal, then it is the players skill at a certain thing that gives or takes away their advantage over the other. Exploiting a mechanic in the game is not a skill, it is an exploit to gain the upper hand over others. And of course we have to use it, now people know it's there, you either use it or get removed from the group. People wont be interested in doing the WHOLE dungeon when they know it can be done in less than half the time it would usually take.

    This will cause a spiral effect and will filter down and cause people to find other ways to exploit the game, eventually making it a complete bore fest and will make the game pointless. Look at WoW, people founds every way they could to avoid doing something "harder" and eventually people left the game, people only sub when new content is released. They hammer that and complete that content within a week and then don't play until the next patch. I do not want this to go that way, if it does then I will have to leave because why should I invest my time into something while others are exploiting to get everything. Just my opinion.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by animapain View Post
    Just my opinion.
    Not really comparing it to real life so much as simply stating nothings really fair in general. People will always end up with some advantage in some way or another. Frankly the bosses are the interesting parts to the dungeon. Trash is exactly what the name suggests. Trash. I also gave you a viable alternative to DF and speed runs. It's up to you whether you make the choice to do it or not. People really gotta learn some self restraint. Just because an option is available does not mean you have to use it. If you tell yourself you have to thats just making an excuse.
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