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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    so the tl;dr version is that you enjoy wasting time? I can tell you have copious amounts of experience with FFXIV with your join date and job levels. How about you get past level 20 before you comment on how endgame dungeons should be tweeked?
    I don't think MMOs are for you. This is just basic design and does not specifically apply to FFXIV, whether I have been to its endgame or not. If it's BORING, thats one thing, but if its taking up your time, thats working as intended. You don't know what you're getting into if after the 5th or 6th run of the same dungeon you start complaining.
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    I feel like I'm the only Lalafell that followed standard naming conventions ._.

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    if this is a exploit that means in 1.0 when we had to do 17 min speed runs In AV=The Aurum Vale and CC= Cuters Cry for items for relic quest we where exploiting the system because we would run along a wall and skip half the mobs and then we would sleep mobs and run past to the portal or just run past them till they de-aggro. all people are doing in Amdapor keep is speed running it not exploiting anything where not using some bug to give us a leg up we are not hacking a system to make it better for us we are doing the same thing that ever player that has accuse to the dungeon can do we. In the completion guidelines for the dungeon is says nothing about kill ever mob that gets in your way it give you 3 requirements and we chose the best way to do those in the fastest time we can so we can move on to the next run.

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    also all the peaple that say this is a exploit next time you run through a zone and get aggro and just keep running so you dont have to fight knowing the mob will lose aggro on you after a set time or distance you are exploiting that fact.
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    Last edited by natwig; 09-05-2013 at 01:20 AM.

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    Well every MMO player in most MMO's can do this. Its been a long time quick tip for experienced dungeon runners. If you are there only for gear that drops from the bosses why would you spend all that time doing trash mobs unless it is for a quest requirement.

    Take 1-2hours for 1 run or would you do 2 runs in the same time and double your chances for that gear drop...which would you choose? It is just like complaining about how doing Fate farming is quicker to level than doing questing ....either one is fine. Next time in your group make sure you tell them not to do a train.

    If you are there for an experience run then i could see your point but like others before said its not an exploit "its working smarter not harder"
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    Man we must have been exploiting this game real hard during 1.0 AV & CC then.

    Oh wait. SE made us do that.
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    Almost every group I get does this. Granted it helps get the tomestones faster, it defeats the purpose of them removing leashing from monsters. Should be fixed.
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    I dont think is a Exploit. If the game mechanics allow this gameplay why cant be used?

    I never did amdapor.

    Lets wait and see what happens

    cya!
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    eh I've played other games where the tank just run past all trash mobs to get to objectives then either run out of their range to reset aggro or die. It's nothing new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    eh I've played other games where the tank just run past all trash mobs to get to objectives then either run out of their range to reset aggro or die. It's nothing new.
    But that doesn't make it right. Why do we accept such standards instead of striving for anything better? Its not good game design if players are skipping through content just to get to what is 'important' to them. Everything in-between should have some reasonable value to the player to keep things more interesting and less boring for time invested.
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    I feel like I'm the only Lalafell that followed standard naming conventions ._.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rurushan View Post
    But that doesn't make it right. Why do we accept such standards instead of striving for anything better? Its not good game design if players are skipping through content just to get to what is 'important' to them. Everything in-between should have some reasonable value to the player to keep things more interesting and less boring for time invested.
    ya it doesn't make it right but also it doesn't make it wrong
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    Keep is hard pose to be and I'm a blm so it's even harder to clear. If you want to exp pick another dungeon. This is for advancing rank and getting items.
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