We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[LordMacabre]

For the sake of argument, let's say that this assumption (because that's what it is without any sort of evidence or study) is true.

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Many/most of you have real life jobs. You spend money on necessities and frivolities.

When it's happening to me first hand, actually losing money for a dungeon run, I no longer call that an "assumption". You may need to assume, but I do not. For me it's an observation, and one based on personal experience.

As for your "frivolities", if I want to continue to progress in the game, I need to run dungeons. When the cost to do that is greater than the reward for doing it, it's broken. You can try to turn this into some "real world" example, but I'm not going to pay a subscription fee to avoid playing the game so I can "spend less" on the necessity of repairing my gear.

[AzuraSin]

When it's happening to me first hand, actually losing money for a dungeon run, I no longer call that an "assumption". You may need to assume, but I do not. For me it's an observation, and one based on personal experience.

Who guaranteed you'd make money (or break even) solely by running dungeons? Is it not logical that it would cost gil to do certain things in the game?

As for your "frivolities", if I want to continue to progress in the game, I need to run dungeons. When the cost to do that is greater than the reward for doing it, it's broken. You can try to turn this into some "real world" example, but I'm not going to pay a subscription fee to avoid playing the game so I can "spend less" on the necessity of repairing my gear.

So you're saying the costs to do the fun/advancement stuff in the game should be covered by doing said stuff, and that you shouldn't need to do anything else to make money. Got it. Yeah I can't imagine you'll be here long either.

[Merix]

You can try to turn this into some "real world" example, but I'm not going to pay a subscription fee to avoid playing the game so I can "spend less" on the necessity of repairing my gear.

Here is a real world example of how the game currently works in regards to DoW classes.

It costs $50 in gas to get to your job.
At your job you earn $10 an hour for 8 hours.
It costs $50 in gas to get home.

You just earned $80, but spent $100.

There are no closer or better paying jobs.