We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[NaturalLotD]

It's real simple, either fix this issue SE or people like me will not sub at the end of our free time. It's stupid that the costs I incur to repair approach 5k after a few runs with 0 deaths. It's one thing to incur a repair penalty on death, but quite another when you do for clearing content...you're still penalized. There's no way to make consistent Gil to keep up with costs.

Also, for those who say do a Tradeskill, but what if I don't play MMOs to grind crafting and gathering for hours on end for minimal reward? I have to grind leves for a few hours just to run a dungeon or two. No thanks! When the free time is up, people won't sub to a game regardless of how good it is if this repair/Gil issues continues.


Even if they just made it where your gear takes damage on death only, that would be a huge help.

[Londis2013]

At this point in the game, the market has an influx of goods and has yet to stabilize. When it does, prices too will stabilize, and we will see more gains on crafting goods placed upon the AH. Yet, you cannot expect much when everyone is crafting the same materials/item and placing them up on the AH. Supply and demand dictates that the price of that particular good/item will drop to far below actual market value.

[NaturalLotD]

Why does it have to be about crafting? Many people just wanna play the adventure classes and not HAVE to craft. Most MMOs allow people to enjoy the game without losing precious life grinding up a craft. It shouldn't be mandatory. Not only that, with little Gil it's near impossible right now anyhow, with little reward for doing it to boot.

Like I said, when free time is up, there will be way less server population problems if this doesn't get resolved.

[WVUTrip]

At this point in the game, the market has an influx of goods and has yet to stabilize. When it does, prices too will stabilize, and we will see more gains on crafting goods placed upon the AH. Yet, you cannot expect much when everyone is crafting the same materials/item and placing them up on the AH. Supply and demand dictates that the price of that particular good/item will drop to far below actual market value.

Really man? Read the posts please so you do not post something like you just did. What you said has nothing To do with the topic in this thread. Please refrain from derailing the thread with ignorance.

[Londis2013]

Really man? Read the posts please so you do not post something like you just did. What you said has nothing To do with the topic in this thread. Please refrain from derailing the thread with ignorance.

I have read the OPs statement and I have read the statement on crafting and how it makes very little money on the AH. I have responded to the statement on crafting, so I do believe I have responded correctly to the post. I assume you have not read much of the post if you missed the comments on how crafting does not make any money, or did I use words that were too big for you?

[WVUTrip]

SNIP

Regardless of who you were responding to it still has nothing to do with this thread. If you can not understand let me explain. The economy in Final Fantasy will lose more Gil then it will add into the game over time. This means the amount of Gil in circulation will continue to decrease overtime. When this happens there will be massive deflation (items losing value). Eventually there will be no currency left at all. Meaning end of the game.

Your supply and demand argument proves that you have no idea about the problem at all. People buying and selling stuff to each other only adds to the money supply problem and drains it from the economy via tax. Your big words do not scare me only your ignorance and lack of economical understanding. Read up on the current Japan situation in real life if you want to know the dangers of deflation and the lengths governments will go to stop it.

[Usotsuki]

I wonder if most people defending the low amount of gil we obtain are legacy players with 1 million gil or more in their pockets.

[Catharsis]

I wonder if most people defending the low amount of gil we obtain are legacy players with 1 million gil or more in their pockets.

No. I'm a Legacy player, I have well over a million gil, I sustain myself via the market and by hoarding gil, and I don't think this is the right thing to do at all.

It definitely makes life more difficult for new players, especially on Legacy servers with pre-inflated prices, which is not healthy for the game.

That being said, the game is only little more than two weeks old - I do think Square Enix will tackle this (but at a glacial pace) - this encourages me to hoard gil for the next three months (until patch 2.1) because I know that its future value will only increase. I'd like to think I'm already doing my best for the economy by selling goods at what I think are fair trade prices (comparable to NPCs), but it's not like there's a civic award for being a model citizen.

[Aketo]

I can't understand people like Londis2013 and a few others on here that just don't get it, unless you have cheap gear 1-20 gear for crafting, gathering and fighting at 50 your always going to lose money on all activities in game.

Not only that after everyone get to 50 you'll start seeing less and less if any sales on the market because nearly everyone that isn't legacy and even legacy are going to be broke period after a point unless we don't actually play the game unless we are in cheap crap gear since the repairs outweigh any gear past 20+ to repair.

Sadly they just don't get non of the leves, fates, dungeon, or raids are giving near enough to support playing a character after 30 & even before hand its expensive. unless you want to gimp your party in the process by severely undergearing yourself you had better not do leves, raids, dungeons or fates and even if you can craft and gather with lower level gear its harder to get HQ items and gathered and made without high end gear.

[Londis2013]

It is true that I am a legacy player, but I have not had to use any money other than the money that I have gained through leves, questing, and the like. As for millions... I do not possess even a quarter million gil.