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    HecatesLover's Avatar
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    Hecate Arcana
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Just looked into doing Leve's. The only repeatable source of gil creation for level 50s. We hoped people in a group with a leve holder would get some reward for taking part. Nope. This means everybody can only get about 3000 gil per day through leves. I spend way more than this on repairs from combat. Eventually the economy will run out of money and people won't be able to do content since their gear will be broken and we won't be able to repair.
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    Nimrod Dragneel
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    Quote Originally Posted by HecatesLover View Post
    Just looked into doing Leve's. The only repeatable source of gil creation for level 50s. We hoped people in a group with a leve holder would get some reward for taking part. Nope. This means everybody can only get about 3000 gil per day through leves. I spend way more than this on repairs from combat. Eventually the economy will run out of money and people won't be able to do content since their gear will be broken and we won't be able to repair.
    This argument has a flaw, it counts only for the beginning of new servers, after 2-3Weeks the problem is gone.

    U can get your gear repaired by a high level crafter. U only need Darkmatterl V, which u get from your Legion and can by it with Legion Coins (u get them from Fates, turning in Green Gear or from the Legion Hunting Log)
    For each item repaired u pay the craftsman 50Gil - so u end up at 500Gil for a full repair. So no more 4000-6000k repairs at that point.
    Optionally u can raise your crafting skills and repair your own gear.
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    Artamie's Avatar
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    Artamie Knights
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    Aegis
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    This argument has a flaw, it counts only for the beginning of new servers, after 2-3Weeks the problem is gone.

    U can get your gear repaired by a high level crafter. U only need Darkmatterl V, which u get from your Legion and can by it with Legion Coins (u get them from Fates, turning in Green Gear or from the Legion Hunting Log)
    For each item repaired u pay the craftsman 50Gil - so u end up at 500Gil for a full repair. So no more 4000-6000k repairs at that point.
    Optionally u can raise your crafting skills and repair your own gear.
    This is what I'm thinking too... the gil problem probably occurs when you play the game while ignoring almost half the other classes. Repair used to be a huge deal in 1.0 too but when people made crafter friends it fixed the problem. So yeah I think it's just a waiting game for people to level up crafting to fill the repair demand.
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    Tryst Wildkey
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    Durandal
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    This argument has a flaw, it counts only for the beginning of new servers, after 2-3Weeks the problem is gone.

    U can get your gear repaired by a high level crafter. U only need Darkmatterl V, which u get from your Legion and can by it with Legion Coins (u get them from Fates, turning in Green Gear or from the Legion Hunting Log)
    For each item repaired u pay the craftsman 50Gil - so u end up at 500Gil for a full repair. So no more 4000-6000k repairs at that point.
    Optionally u can raise your crafting skills and repair your own gear.
    Unfortunately, it seems that they have removed the ability for players to repair other player's gear. I tried repairing my husband's gear the other day, neither one of us could figure out how. If you know how to do this in the current version of the game, please let me know ^^
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

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    Striopach A'aingidh
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by nimrod View Post
    This argument has a flaw, it counts only for the beginning of new servers, after 2-3Weeks the problem is gone.

    U can get your gear repaired by a high level crafter. U only need Darkmatterl V, which u get from your Legion and can by it with Legion Coins (u get them from Fates, turning in Green Gear or from the Legion Hunting Log)
    For each item repaired u pay the craftsman 50Gil - so u end up at 500Gil for a full repair. So no more 4000-6000k repairs at that point.
    Optionally u can raise your crafting skills and repair your own gear.
    Each Dark Matter costs ~1000 seals, so you'll need to run 4 leves or so to buy an item to repair one piece of gear. Rinse/repeat for 52 leves total to be able to repair your gear once.

    I don't think SE had it in mind to create the ultimate dynamic event grinder MMO ever created, right?
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    Laela Valentina
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    You know, there may be on reason for putting in an economic functions that only drain the global economy at first. Let's say the long term of effects of this won't be seen until the first big drop off of new players. So mid to late first year of the game people start to decline and the effects of deflation really start to hit. Who are the only people to be really amassing money at this point? The gil selling companies buying the departing player gil. It would be a brilliant way to kill the gil selling companies early in the game's life cycle. I don't know if I can give Square that much credit on this move, but maybe...
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    Voltres Lionward
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I'm afraid of spending money, because there are no places to make it back in a reasonable time.
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    Zendru Razi
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    Sophia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by meuqsaco View Post
    I'm afraid of spending money, because there are no places to make it back in a reasonable time.
    I feel the same way. I am avoiding the AH completely and running almost everywhere to avoid wasting gil until I know I have a steady source (dungeons/leves/fates) to recover it from.
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    Peprika Parkman
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    wow ... i had no clue how bad some of the level 50 players are... too bad you rushed to level cap and didnt actually learn to play the game efficiently...
    but in retrospect this isnt your fault. its the developer's fault for not having challenging content to toughen players up in the early levels.
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    There is so much stupidity in this thread that I don't even know where to start.

    Stop talking about making money by trading, stop talking about "farming" dark matter when it literally can only be bought from NPC's. Stop talking about running dungeons for money, the chests drop allagan bronze pieces in level50 dungeons to ONE player per chest and does not cover repairs AT ALL. You can flawlessly clear a dungeon with ZERO wipes in record time and still end up not making any profit from it. I don't even think dying makes your gear lose durability, I died for over an hour in Ampador when learning it and my gear was still 83%.

    This thread is about putting more gil into the game and into the economy, not trading it between hands with another player. Please learn to READ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    you get silvers too i had no silvers prior this morning I havent done a quest in a to lvl sch since i was 40 and that was last week been all fates since then i haven't had an silver gil item till today.
    Ampador keep does not drop silver pieces, it drops bronze. It is not mathematically possible to get 325 bronze pieces in 20 runs, there's at most 3 chests(I think 1-2) that drop them, and they only drop about 4-7.
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    Last edited by Shiyo; 09-06-2013 at 05:44 AM.

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