Online Bullying - A Dev request for a response and discussion

[Iolair_Silverwing]

So I was bored and decided to try and calculate all of the "likes" for substantial arguments people gave, regarding each side of the coin.
I reached up to page 10 of this thread, and thought theres more than enough to justify what is/isn't appropriate.
I excluded any comments that were just one-liners, or jabs that were not significant, and found in the first ten pages alone,

People who approve of bullying: 62
People who do not approve, and want measures taken: 847
People who turned blind eye (aka "ignore, thats life" etc) 35

Clearly that tells you this level of harassment is not appropriate, nor is it the norm, and I hope, will not be allowed. I will do my part and report it anytime I see it whether or not I am involved in the conversation. I hope those 847 (and more in several more pages) will do the same

[Tecprincesself]

It's the internet, people are dicks. Enforcing anything will just make it worse.

Just don't be hurt by it and move on. Enjoy the nice people, it's just like real life, because it's the same people, except they feel safer in saying what they think.

Doing nothing bullying on the net is just as bad as being in rl... There has been people committing suicide because of online bullying. Not all people can take it. The reason people do it is because no one is doing anything about it. If you have consequences then there be less of it.

It will be less of it once people don't have free play on the game because most of them are on free time till it runs out... But it does need to be stopped. They need a report button and people reporting them on the forums and gms need to do something about it.

[Eunjio]

So I was bored and decided to try and calculate all of the "likes" for substantial arguments people gave, regarding each side of the coin.
I reached up to page 10 of this thread, and thought theres more than enough to justify what is/isn't appropriate.
I excluded any comments that were just one-liners, or jabs that were not significant, and found in the first ten pages alone,

People who approve of bullying: 62
People who do not approve, and want measures taken: 847
People who turned blind eye (aka "ignore, thats life" etc) 35

Clearly that tells you this level of harassment is not appropriate, nor is it the norm, and I hope, will not be allowed. I will do my part and report it anytime I see it whether or not I am involved in the conversation. I hope those 847 (and more in several more pages) will do the same

I totally agree with you and I to will do the same and stand up for the people who are being bullied.

[Woobies]

dude, there's blacklist for a reason and you can easily just leave a dungeon if people are giving you a problem. There's no need for the community to take action, people need to take responsibility for them selves.

It's not effecting me so therefore it is not an issue syndrome has got to stop. The truth of the matter is that bullying is an issue. It is an issue in game and out of game and it has major effects on the person and the community. Ignoring it, whether it is directed at you or someone else, gives permission for it to continue. If you see it happening, call the person out. If it is happening to you, call the person out on it. Remaining silent and growing thick skin is not going to solve the problems bullying creates for the community.

[Sneakaboo]

To be fair it's not up to the players to sort this, in fact you can't solve it.
As malicious as people can act, in the end most will still play by the rules.
Simply because they don't like the consequences.


SE makes it clear, they don't want you to behave like this.
BUT they aren't doing much if not anything about it when people do this.
Thus it's tolerated by SE and you have no leg to stand on.
You can harass people in A realm reborn simple as that.


There are solutions for this, some have been brought up with Yoshi.
His response is 'leave or ignore'.

Which means he puts the responsibility on you instead of taking it as a company.
Mean while you/me and any one else can pretty much say what ever they want.
Since if you don't leave or ignore it is your own fault.

It's just how it is.

Personally I find it interesting how most publishers seem to draw their hands away from any form of morals/social norms.
They try to be as neutral/political as possible when it comes to it.
How ever if the majority of a community is acting up (think of leauge of legends/xbox/Cot) isn't that behaviour just not the new social norm?

[Eunjio]

To be fair it's not up to the players to sort this, in fact you can't solve it.

Is that all you have to say? The righteous people aren't just going to sit by and watch while others get bullied and berated in front of them, sorry but i disagree with you.

[Sneakaboo]

Is that all you have to say? The righteous people aren't just going to sit by and watch while others get bullied and berated in front of them, sorry but i disagree with you.

Before you agree/disagree you should read the post calmly.
Would be welcome if you would explain why you think I'm basically wrong with this post.

I'm in general just being realistic and I welcome to discuss this.
Though than I ask you to read the whole thing and not snip one sentence out and make a statement.

[Eunjio]

Before you agree/disagree you should read the post calmly.
Would be welcome if you would explain why you think I'm basically wrong with this post.

I'm in general just being realistic and I welcome to discuss this.
Though than I ask you to read the whole thing and not snip one sentence out and make a statement.

Ive read from beginning to end, Its not about you being wrong, I disagree for that fact of disagreeing upon what you said. You state Yoshi told us to "leave it or ignore it" and its our responsibility. Even though you say your being realistic, so am I, I only snipped one sentence out to make a statement, because what you said was quite vague. There are going to be some people who are just going to leave it and/or ignore it, but most people arent going to turn a blind eye to bullying.

[Howitzer]

I will never hesitate to tell someone they flat-out suck. I'll be mean about it, too, if it gets my point across. However, what we see in the OP's thread is so over-the-top and it's just far beyond what's considered acceptable.

[Axke]

Its like a never endin battle :-D