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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimimiAvesta View Post
    Tell someone at your work/college/social group/family to "Go cut your fucking throat" over a game and see if any of them shrug it off as "Oh, you're just being a jerk and throwing out insults like people do all the time.".

    The problem here is with the person doling out the insults, not the person on the other end, offended or not.
    I don't act like that in game or in person. I also don't think most of the people who act like dicks online would do it in person. Hence why I said it's the internet. We all know a good portion of people act differently when behind a screen.
    Maybe I am just jaded to it as I've played games for years and I am able to ignore the unpleasant individuals. Sure, they shouldn't act like a d-bag, but they're going to nonetheless. That's what the report function is for. I was more disagreeing with the OP calling it bullying.
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  2. #162
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    Simple solution to a big problem: SE mails us plane tickets and buss fare to the offenders house.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I
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  3. #163
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    It's funny because I'm assuming that the reason there are so many pricks in the duty finder is because they can't form their own groups, most likely due to their shitty attitude.
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  4. #164
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    well you don't get around the internet much if you don't see this kinda of bs very often.. its every where. While yes they are mostly children There are some adults that act like this too. I really have to ask where the kids parents are and how come there not doing there parental responsibility's and taking care of there children, teaching them right from wrong. As this is wrong.

    This kind of behavior is not acceptable IRL nor is it imo acceptable online. If my kid talked to someone like this online i would bare ass whip him.

    Not to mention that even talking like that to someone can get you jail time, easily..

    the problem is that there not really learning and that most people don't want to put up with it. where here to enjoy our self's not to parent others children. There really needs to be some consequences for this kind of behavior.
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  5. #165
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    Here is my stance on Cyber Bullying (which is what it is officially called). People who tend to be emotionally, mentally and verbally abusive can cause psychological effects on some people who cannot deal with these types of abuse. I have a few friends who have mental disabilities which make them very sensitive to what others say and hurts them a lot easier than some people. I'm not saying that people with these same mental disabilities are the same but it's just an example. Most of the time, people who hurt others are currently being hurt themselves. Either that or they are just being rude to be rude. I do feel that hurting the person who hurt you is just sinking as low. Some people lash out in anger, some cry and others become withdrawn. Most are defenses against society and they become anti-social. I tend to try and be neutral for most cases but when someone begins to attack race, gender and other personal things; then it becomes a real issue.
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  6. #166
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    If you are asking to stomp on the negative individuals, then I'm not in agreement with that since I'm one of those. We exist to balance out the positive people and bring them down to reality which is a good thing, so if you ban us then in-order to be equal. You'll need to punish the positive folk as well. Now I'm fine with banning people who harass others without providing backup, that shouldn't be allowed. However if they do provide reasons to why they are saying these things in like an argument then what you have is just a negative person, not a bully. Big difference here and easily confused for some. This is typically constructive criticism, not just criticizing without benefit.

    You need balance in the community; both positive and negative people to have a healthy community. You don't need the bad apples who harass and torment others, this is mainly targeting and focusing on the individuals. Those need to be punished, and by the sounds of it. That's what's in the duty finder as to which I have not seen yet. If I can provide reasons to why I'm thinking negatively of you or trying to help you by labeling it negatively, then those people should be free of punishment. This is why I'm not going near the word bully, it's not accurate enough to describe what's happening.

    @FritoBandito You took the post too literally and came up with a silly comparison, it's fine though. The point was you need balance, shifting the focus to punish 1/2(or 1/3 if you wanna go that way) of the types is not fair was the point you may of missed. I tend to see things in black and white and force the grey into one of the two categories, mostly because it's challenging. Off-topic though.

    @Terius I did read the OP. If you didn't understand my post, please refer to my opening statement. It's in the shape of a question. "If you are asking to stomp on the negative individuals" that means I wasn't following. Mostly because they are using the word bully, bully can mean a variety of things which I took as negatives. However if you read my post correctly, you should have realized what I mean. Am I saying what's present in the picture is okay? No, that's what I considered not okay. So not sure why you took it that way, care to explain how? I'm usually good with wording, but maybe not today.
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    Last edited by JerryBoyle; 09-06-2013 at 05:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBoyle View Post
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    It's totally fine to point out a person's poor performance and explain how they can do better, but there's a right way and a wrong way. The wrong way was clearly displayed in OP's image. The right way has been explained in several posts on this forum already.

    Also, you talk about the balance of positive and negative people like they're protons and electrons. This is completely different. How many shrinks are out there for positive people to go visit because they need to be more negative in life, and take meds to get them down in the dumps when they're too happy about something?
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  8. #168
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    I wish I could blacklist every poster ITT that condones this disgusting behavior, going so far as to blame the poor bastard on the receiving end for not being "thick-skinned" enough. You make me sick.
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryBoyle View Post
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    Looks like someone did not read the OP. This thread isn't about telling someone their not perfect when they need to hear it, its about telling people things that have no place being said. There is no reason for it. What's in the OP's pic is not 'balancing' out in any way/
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    We seem to have a number of troll apologists in the thread, who are under the false impression that the community should be content to grin and bear it, or silently resign that name-calling and harassment is just an unavoidable side effect of being on the internet. Is it wishful thinking, perhaps? In any case, something about getting this topic out in the open, and creating buzz around increased countermeasures and reporting to mods, is clearly making them uncomfortable.

    "Suck it up," "grow a pair," and "you will never stop this," are quite obvious signs of desperation and insecurity. They're trying to psych themselves up, by fooling players into thinking there's something wrong with them if they are offended by straight-up insults and harassment. It's a pathetic attempt to prolong their inevitable suspension/ban.

    I can't tell the rest of you what to do, but failing to report is practically doing these trolls a favour. Don't let them swindle you into thinking "it will never go away." If you report them, they will go away.
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