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  1. #181
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    Vic Tur
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    Leviathan
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    If you notice this was in reply to someone else showing their rotation and asking what I think. That's not my rotation. My rotation is:

    Swiftcast > Thunder 3 > Fire 3 > Fire til OOM > Blizzard 3 > Thunder 2 > repeat. Using thundercloud for Thunder 3 and firestarter procs at end of casts or when I need to move or saving to get back into astral from umbral after regen.

    Read Thunder 2/3. I get full mana by the time I finish Thunder 2, so why would I cast Thunder 3? Of course you can get back to full MP after casting 3, it's .5 seconds longer without buffs. Look at the benefits of both, 3 = 3.5 cast, 60 initial potency, same dot damage, and +3 second duration on dot. I use thundercloud procs on 3, otherwise I'm casting 2 since I regen to full MP by the time my Fire 3 goes off.
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  2. #182
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    Coephoros Asura
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    Why open with swiftcast? Just start casting while your tanks is running to engage. Save swiftcast for dodging AOE or adds.
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  3. #183
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    mpetason's Avatar
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    Vic Tur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coephoros View Post
    Why open with swiftcast? Just start casting while your tanks is running to engage. Save swiftcast for dodging AOE or adds.
    I'm ADD and I enjoy running and Jumping + getting into position while getting a spell off and finishing the animation. This is mostly boss fights. I have almost 0 rotation awareness when I'm on trash, I just mash buttons.
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  4. #184
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    Just hit 35 BLM and didn't get Freeze, am I missing somethig?
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    wTd

  5. #185
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    NVM scratch last post
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    wTd

  6. #186
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    Einzbern Zweistel
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpetason View Post
    If you notice this was in reply to someone else showing their rotation and asking what I think. That's not my rotation. My rotation is:

    Swiftcast > Thunder 3 > Fire 3 > Fire til OOM > Blizzard 3 > Thunder 2 > repeat. Using thundercloud for Thunder 3 and firestarter procs at end of casts or when I need to move or saving to get back into astral from umbral after regen.

    Read Thunder 2/3. I get full mana by the time I finish Thunder 2, so why would I cast Thunder 3? Of course you can get back to full MP after casting 3, it's .5 seconds longer without buffs. Look at the benefits of both, 3 = 3.5 cast, 60 initial potency, same dot damage, and +3 second duration on dot. I use thundercloud procs on 3, otherwise I'm casting 2 since I regen to full MP by the time my Fire 3 goes off.
    I'm not totally sold on using thunder II over III when hard casting. While your MP reasoning is ound, Thunder III adds some additional damage to Thundercloud procs, unless I'm mistaken. Thunder III reads: "5% chance after each tick that potency of next Thunder, Thunder II, or Thunder III will be 340, have no cast time, and cost no MP." whereas Thunder II reads: "5% chance after each tick that potency of next Thunder, Thunder II, or Thunder III will be 295, have no cast time, and cost no MP.".


    Onto my question: Am I better off casting Fire till I only have enough mana to cast Blizzard III, then having to wait for a tic of mana before I can cast Thunder II/III, or should I shave off a Fire cast if it meant I could cast Thunder II/III immediately after Blizzard III?
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  7. #187
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    Happy Taint
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foullacy View Post
    You can't use Thunder III

    When actually do a boss and you can use your 44+ rotation properly, using Thunder III not only takes longer to cast, but it cost twice as much mana. Thunder is not your main DPS attack, Fire is. Using Thunder III means that if you follow the proper rotation, you will not have full mana once you Fire III and you will have lost cast of Fire by wasting it on the longer cast. Also Thundercloud is only a 5% proc, you're gaining 30 potency for double mana and double cast time, then 5% to get 100 extra potency. Once DPS meters come out you'll see why it's not worth it to cast Thunder III.
    Thunder 3 lasts 6 seconds longer for one more second of cast time. Don't use Thunder 1.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    What is the best GC for BLM gear wise?
    Immortal Flames
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  9. #189
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    Aenore Tristelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpetason View Post
    Read Thunder 2/3. I get full mana by the time I finish Thunder 2, so why would I cast Thunder 3? Of course you can get back to full MP after casting 3, it's .5 seconds longer without buffs. Look at the benefits of both, 3 = 3.5 cast, 60 initial potency, same dot damage, and +3 second duration on dot. I use thundercloud procs on 3, otherwise I'm casting 2 since I regen to full MP by the time my Fire 3 goes off.
    I'm confused here

    How come you get full mana by the time you cast thunder 2 and i need the time for thunder 3 plus 1,5 sec to cast fire3?
    There must be a difference somewhere. Any ideas about where it is? You enter umbral phase with much more mana then me?
    Or you are making calculation when bard with mana regen song is near?
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  10. #190
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    Kaitoshi Ki
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    Behemoth
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    Miner Lv 21
    what rotation u guys use for adds on bosses? fire 2 stacked? i mean an aoe rotation
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