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  1. #331
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    Thotor's Avatar
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMagus View Post
    I occasionally see people saying Summoners are bad DPS, and some dont even allow one in their party.

    They're not that bad, are they?
    Unless parsers are broken, Summoners does barely more damage than a warrior tanking.
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    Ner Wer
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    Cerberus
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Good morning all.
    Sorry for my bad engrish (have learned it in Fallout1-2) but i need to ask somebody about dps parser. A friend of mine is using LogRep2 and can't figure how to check total dmg during all encounter (counting all mobs not just "Total boss"). It's possible to use calculator in that case and summarize all the positions but it's bs (brahmin sh*t) =\. Will be very glad for any tips!
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    Eris Dysnomia
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 35
    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    Unless parsers are broken, Summoners does barely more damage than a warrior tanking.
    I would not rely too much on parser data. Some say that the parsers do not account properly for DoT damage, which happens to be the main source of damage for the summoner.
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    As far as i heard, one dot gets tracked and the other (that does no initial damage) does not get tracked. As long as parser aren't really fleshed out, the parses aren't more than good guesses.
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  5. #335
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usotsuki View Post
    As far as i heard, one dot gets tracked and the other (that does no initial damage) does not get tracked.
    Makes senses
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  6. #336
    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Schitzen View Post
    Too bad your monk has to be in melee range and behind the mob the entire fight or you're not doing anything. Too bad the fights aren't all WoW styled tank and spanks, amirite?

    Lol monk has only to be behind for bootshine and true strike.

    In fact Amdapor keep last boss monk keeps ahead of parsers by sitting as side and never losing a stack of greased lighting whole fight.
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    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilJumperMT View Post
    Lol monk has only to be behind for bootshine and true strike.

    In fact Amdapor keep last boss monk keeps ahead of parsers by sitting as side and never losing a stack of greased lighting whole fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Usotsuki View Post
    As far as i heard, one dot gets tracked and the other (that does no initial damage) does not get tracked. As long as parser aren't really fleshed out, the parses aren't more than good guesses.

    WTF so keeping Touch of Death and Fracture all time does not increase my e-penis!?
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  8. #338
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    Shinra Tensei
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    the ffxiv-app parser doesnt even register bio bio2 and shadow flare dmg, i did 60k without them in irfrit hard same dmg as a dragoon
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  9. #339
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by asyra View Post
    the ffxiv-app parser doesnt even register bio bio2 and shadow flare dmg, i did 60k without them in irfrit hard same dmg as a dragoon
    Parse? Because the last person to claim that much DPS turned out to have done 35k in Limit Break.
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    Ippon Seionage
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Usotsuki View Post
    As far as i heard, one dot gets tracked and the other (that does no initial damage) does not get tracked.
    I think that's a result of the poor combat log in FFXIV. There's a lot of stuff that isn't tracked the way you would expect. DoT damage, f.ex., never shows. The way the App parser tracks normal DoTs is that it sees the initial damage hit (and so knows the attack landed), and then just manually adds in the DoT damage based on the ratio of the initial hit compared to the DoT. I know it works that way because it will show the full damage even if you land the DoT right as a mob dies. It also shows the full 6 ticks (18 second duration) for ARC's Venomous Bite, even before you have the trait that makes it 18 seconds.

    For DoTs that don't have an initial hit, the parser can't really know the damage it will do since it's never shown. I'm also not 100% sure that applying a non-hit DoT shows in the combat log.
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