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    Thank you!
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    I really hope Summoners don't get kicked to the curb for progression given it's the class I leveled and currently bought 2 darklight pieces for =/. I mean, I have the option of scholar but I'd have to start over...
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    Dixa Lorvaelis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    I really hope Summoners don't get kicked to the curb for progression given it's the class I leveled and currently bought 2 darklight pieces for =/. I mean, I have the option of scholar but I'd have to start over...
    this is likely to be the case until the class is addressed. no on-demand burst. many things like the stone cocoons in titan can't be dotted up. and little to no actual group utility - at least nothing on the level bard songs. hell, a scholar healer even with the arcanist mana regen tricks still needs bard song since the only aoe heal the class gets heals for less than half of a white mages, gives a shield and costs a LOT more mp to use. in fact all of the scholar specific heals are like this - heal for less, cost as much or more mp meaning more casts meaning you're gonna need bard song when doing fights with unavoidable damage.
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    Malakaz Vosoma
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    Well we all know black mage is one of the lowest dps classes in the game! Heck summoner does more damage than the black mage!
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    Orb Naethem
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    I hope this is sarcasm because every datas shows that if there were no movement in fights, BLM would be N°1 Dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salaster View Post
    I hope this is sarcasm because every datas shows that if there were no movement in fights, BLM would be N°1 Dps.
    It is sarcasm in the summoner feedback thread we have one person who says summoner is the best single target and that black mage is one of the lowest dps. Personally I am done responding to her the very fact that there is huge debate on summoner shows that there is issues.

    here take a look.


    Editmy mistake she said bard but she said that summoner does more than black mage)

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...k-Thread/page3
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    Last edited by shinros; 09-01-2013 at 10:28 PM.

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    Virtual On
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinros View Post
    It is sarcasm in the summoner feedback thread we have one person who says summoner is the best single target and that black mage is one of the lowest dps. Personally I am done responding to her the very fact that there is huge debate on summoner shows that there is issues.

    here take a look.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...k-Thread/page3
    FYI I said BRD is the highest. It was the highest In B3, and it got huge buffs. There's really no contest.

    And BLM is one of the lowest ST.
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    Last edited by Kevee; 09-01-2013 at 10:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    FYI I said BRD is the highest. It was the highest In B3, and it got huge buffs. There's really no contest.

    And BLM is one of the lowest ST.
    My mistake but honestly I still can't understand or can agree with your opinion on black mages since its pretty much proven they are one of the best dps classes. As Salaster said if they were no movements in fights they would be number 1.


    Edit:Eckoh bards are that good? Well after leveling an archer to 15 to unlock black mage I have to say I can see why they have crazy good dps. Still I don't believe black mages have the lowest dps.
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    Last edited by shinros; 09-01-2013 at 11:10 PM.

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    Orb Naethem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    FYI I said BRD is the highest. It was the highest In B3, and it got huge buffs. There's really no contest.

    And BLM is one of the lowest ST.
    I suggest you seek information about dps rankings, look streams, etc.

    In pure Single Target, the parses show that it is :

    BLM > BRD > SMN > DRG > MNK > PLD > WAR


    (look at this for instance)
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    Aicasia Corazon
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    I like how this thread turned into Eckoh stroking himself. Really serves to remind me why I stopped seriously raiding a long time ago.

    I mean, I'm sure you're a good player, but this is getting out of hand. It's just turning into you flaunting your accomplishments, and at this point has very little to do with the actual point of the thread. Yeah, you killed Garuda that's cool. It's irrelevant though. This entire discussion is irrelevant because the only actual measure of which class is the best DPS can only be done on either a boss with very low/no armor, no resistances (like Patchwerk), or a target dummy.

    If we were talking about the most versatile, or most useful DPS then anything else might have a chance at being applicable, but we aren't and so it doesn't.
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    Last edited by Aicasia; 09-02-2013 at 03:24 AM.

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