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    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldSerenade View Post
    Well, at least Thief had one guaranteed party slot.
    That's like saying RDM being reduced to refresh-whore was okay. (Hint: it wasn't)

    In the case of MNK, the problem was that the game then and even now is dependent on burst damage while MNK was designed less on burst and more on substained. Which is why people started caring about them once they started getting stuff like Asuran Fists and Dragon Kick, not to mention Victory Smite in the Abyssea era.

    Besides, if you're talking boost chances are you';re talking about the era where MNK was Chi Blast-whore, which is less the fault of the MNK and more the fault of how horribly-designed "endgame" in FFXI was.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Roxie Revolver
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    That's like saying RDM being reduced to refresh-whore was okay. (Hint: it wasn't)

    In the case of MNK, the problem was that the game then and even now is dependent on burst damage while MNK was designed less on burst and more on substained. Which is why people started caring about them once they started getting stuff like Asuran Fists and Dragon Kick, not to mention Victory Smite in the Abyssea era.

    Besides, if you're talking boost chances are you';re talking about the era where MNK was Chi Blast-whore, which is less the fault of the MNK and more the fault of how horribly-designed "endgame" in FFXI was.
    RDM played the support roll perfectly. That class was amazing for people who likes to play support(me).

    Refresh, backup healing, Debuffs, Magic Bursting(albeit low damage), being a non fulltime healer able to raise. RDM was awesome <3

    Monk was hated for anything other than story missions(mostly).
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldSerenade View Post
    RDM played the support roll perfectly. That class was amazing for people who likes to play support(me).

    Refresh, backup healing, Debuffs, Magic Bursting(albeit low damage), being a non fulltime healer able to raise.
    Red Mage in concept is a melee & magic hybrid. The guy with a sword in one hand and magic in the other. I'll let you figure out why reducing a sword & magic hybrid to "support" is wrong, insulting, and demeaning. Seriously, if you wanted support you might as well ask for Oracle or XI's take on Geomancer...not that XIV's combat system would allow a "support" role to exist. And thank god for that.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 09-04-2013 at 10:45 AM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)