We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[Merix]

So far at 50 there are very few ways to generate gil.
3000gil/day from Leves.
<100gil per FATE
1400gil per dungeon run (per group, not per person)
This is not sustainable.

Repairs from a dungeon cost between 2k-5k per run (for the entire group)
The AH takes 5% out of the economy

You will lose money doing dungeons
You will lose money going out to grind
You will break even or small gain doing FATEs
You will earn limited money from Leves.

The way the game is currently setup there is simply not enough ways to generate money into the economy. Unless this is fixed the game economy will collapse.

PS. The Auction House is not a valid way to "make money" It as a whole is a gil sink and will take money out of the economy while shifting money between players.

[Zyeriis]

What you're saying isn't wrong but what you're predicting is.

You're blind to the crafting/gathering classes. And obviously you're not going to be rich instantly, especially if you're only trying to make money using battle content. You should sell your allagan currency if you're that desperate.

[Merix]

What you're saying isn't wrong but what you're predicting is.

You're blind to the crafting/gathering classes. And obviously you're not going to be rich instantly, especially if you're only trying to make money using battle content. You should sell your allagan currency if you're that desperate.

Crafting/gathering classes don't generate money. ANYTHING SOLD ON THE AH TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY.

I'm not trying to "get rich instantly", just talking about maintaining the amount of gold in the economy. There are currently not enough renewable ways to generate gil, and once quests start running out for everyone the economy is going to go into hyper deflation.

[Zyeriis]

Crafting/gathering classes don't generate money. ANYTHING SOLD ON THE AH TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY.

You're going to have to explain how anything sold on the auction house takes money out of the economy. That doesn't make any sense.

[Nash]

You're going to have to explain how anything sold on the auction house takes money out of the economy. That doesn't make any sense.

Selling something on the auction house does not actually generate any gil into the economy. Gil is transferred from one player to another. In addition, the auction house takes a fee which is usually a percentage cut of the transaction. On the whole, gil is actually lost from the economy in the process of a transaction.

What OP is describing is the fact that there are a vast number of large gil sinks on the game but, after drying up all of your sidequests, only a very small amount of actual gil acquisition opportunities. Sure, you can take other people's gil, but as a whole the amount of gil entering the economy for a single character seems to be smaller than the amount of gil that is required in daily maintenance of a level 50 battle character.

[Brugh]

You're going to have to explain how anything sold on the auction house takes money out of the economy. That doesn't make any sense.

Every transaction on the AH shuffles money from one player to another - minus the tax cut.

Thus, it's a gil sink, and doesn't infuse the economy with any additional gil.

The point is that once you've leveled, and completed all the quests in the game that grant notable gil gains - the daily leves/fates are not sufficient influxes of gil to maintain much more than a subsistence economy - and with gil sinks in the repair and market systems - the balance is off.

I made 200k from doing quest lol too many ppl fate grinding instead of doing quest even tho i already had 2 mil gil from 1.0 i made about 2ook lvling my SCH 1-50 cause i always took the tin silver or gold pieces. Those things should be enough to stimulate any server.

So, once everyone has made their 200k... and some people have used the ah to turn that into a couple million, while a bunch more are sitting in the 5k-10k range...

Where does MORE gil come from?

Where are the methods that allow players to create gil in the economy based on their own personal efforts?

Leves are capped. Dungeons and Fates are a minimal infusion as well.

[Firon]

Stuff.

the gil will keep coming in from dungeons and other things, just because 153 gold from a fate doesn't seem like much does not mean it isn't, 200+ people doing Svara might just put about 300k into the server. and that's not counting the 2 fates before it. there is plenty of gil being put into the game. Gil can do nothing but go up.

[Aver]

Crafting/gathering classes don't generate money. ANYTHING SOLD ON THE AH TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY.

I'm not trying to "get rich instantly", just talking about maintaining the amount of gold in the economy. There are currently not enough renewable ways to generate gil, and once quests start running out for everyone the economy is going to go into hyper deflation.

Money comes in every time someone NPCs an allagan piece.

I think the economy is fine.

[Maroite]

Money comes in every time someone NPCs an allagan piece.

I think the economy is fine.

I have about 20k gil in coin on my char... and like 50x 500gil Allagan pieces in my inventory. haha I forget to sell them. I consider them my "Savings Account".

[Mags1412]

Crafting/gathering classes don't generate money. ANYTHING SOLD ON THE AH TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY.

I'm not trying to "get rich instantly", just talking about maintaining the amount of gold in the economy. There are currently not enough renewable ways to generate gil, and once quests start running out for everyone the economy is going to go into hyper deflation.

Taxes (the 5%) is a way to keep the economy in check. Without that inflation will take over really quick.