We need more ways to make gold in this game.

[Sentinel]

I have no idea what game the OP is playing. As a lvl 42 tank, I have never come across a 2.5k repair bill for doing a dungeon, and yes, I have had failed dungeons with 6+ wipes etc before the timer ran out.

I can go through the entire list item by item, but its not worth my time. As a lvl 42 tank, I can confidently say, you don't lose money by doing dungeons or FATEs or any other activity, the amount of Gil you gain will easily offset it. Unless this changes at max lvl, then instead of adding more ways to gain gold, they just need to adjust the gold reward accordingly.

Anyways, I have always wondered who are the people that convince MMO developers to put in 10+ daily grinds a because they don't want to do any tradeskilling, I guess I finally met one.

[Merix]

You can make all kinds of money on the auction house with some patience. It doesn't matter that there are transaction fees, those need to be there to counter all the new money that gets added to the world via jobs. If you add more high paying jobs without increasing the "gil sinks" you are going to have inflation and you'll be back where you started.

And where will these people get their gil from? the AH takes money out of the economy, eventually we will run out of Gil because it is being removed faster than it is being generated and deflation is much much worse than inflation.

[Anderian]

I made 200k from doing quest lol too many ppl fate grinding instead of doing quest even tho i already had 2 mil gil from 1.0 i made about 2ook lvling my SCH 1-50 cause i always took the tin silver or gold pieces. Those things should be enough to stimulate any server.

Those are one-offs. The quests can be only done once, and after majority of the players have finished the quests available in the game, the economy will start to stagnate (more gil going out of the economy because of repairs, teleporting etc.). As mentioned several times, AH isn't generating gil, it's removing it, so "leveling crafting classes" or whatever isn't a solution.

[Comicbookguy]

I died twice doing dugeon runs today and my repair bill for my crappy gear was 2500 gil.

WOW. And the quest give out 600 gils.

This is like the WHITE HOUSE and CONGRESS. THAT DOES NOT COMPUTE.

Anyone know how to make money in this game besides doing quests(they will run) and crafting(I don't want to craft)?

Any animals to farm for skins and hides to sell to those rich crafters?????

[Caselia]

Be glad you're not playing on Legacy servers, you want to talk about fracked up economies.

Anywho if you wish to earn that delicious gil level a crafting class and sell. The 5% of gold that vanishes from registering items from transaction is one of the few current ways to keep too much gold from circulating in the game.

[Kura_Gari]

If I recall, they are planning on adding "dailies" to the game. Which I'd assume would reward in some sort of gil.

[Merix]

Anyways, I have always wondered who are the people that convince MMO developers to put in 10+ daily grinds a because they don't want to do any tradeskilling, I guess I finally met one.

It does change at max level. I am a leatherworker, and I personally have pleanty of gil. The economy has nothing to do with individual players. How do you expect to make money with trade skills once the deflation starts and eventually the vendors are paying as much as everyone else is capable of paying?

[Xenogias]

I made 25k in 1 day crafting on my goldsmith oh well guess some just are destined to be broke.

And some people are destined to simply not understand how economy actually works. If it costs more gil per day than you can PRODUCE (not selling stuff on the AH, actual NEW gil coming into the economy) then eventually the gil will dry up. You will stop making money on the AH because no one will have the gill to buy your products.

Look at it this way. If it costs you 500g a day to play your character. You have made 50,000 gil from the AH. Now no one is buying anything from you in the AH and you can only make 300g a day with fates/isntances ect. You are losing 200g a day. Eventually that 50,000g buffer is going to run out. Then what? You still need 500g a day to play and can still only make 300. Of course those numbers aren't even close to the real numbers but the idea is the same.

[Firon]

Stuff.

the gil will keep coming in from dungeons and other things, just because 153 gold from a fate doesn't seem like much does not mean it isn't, 200+ people doing Svara might just put about 300k into the server. and that's not counting the 2 fates before it. there is plenty of gil being put into the game. Gil can do nothing but go up.

[WiseWolfHolo]

Idk goldsmith is making me mad gil atm, even if I buy my own mats 99 electrum ore at 90 gil each with idk say turquoise, it costs me about 9k total for all that electrum and about 20 raw stones which I then turn around and sell for 8k each on average, depending on the recipe.

Now as for the economy stimulus problem, idk too early to tell.