Stats are more broken than we thought

[Aramil]

So the difference between Crab Bow +3 with Silver Arrows and Weathered Shortbow with Warped Arrows seem to be in the critical hits. But what about Crab Bow +3 with Warped Arrows? Do you think you could test that?

You only have to buy the bow once but you continually have to buy arrows. I'm curious to see if the high rank arrows are worth the gils or not.

[darkstarpoet1]

nice even if your results are an accurate representation of the results then i have to say i do not think that 39,600 extra gil for the silver arrows over the warped arrows are really a good investment to me. if these results were for iron versus silver i would agree it was worth the change, but that little of a difference damage wise does not justify the cost to me. that would be up to the individuals though.

[viion]

Nice, in 42 ranks you've managed to do 10 extra dmg. Score.

I am really not in the mood to go crabby an hrs worth in 2 weapons.

[Richard]

I never once said that it was worth the gil. I never once said that SE has done a good job with the optimization of stats and gear. The only thing I put my foot down on was the fact there there was a difference between option A and option B. For a min/max player, regardless of how broken the system is, 10pt damage increase is better than nothing at all. Also who buys Silver Arrows anyways? The mats take like an hour to farm and you come out with enough stacks to last a month..

@ Aramil - I will test that in the next batch.

[Shiyo]

The point is the difference is so small, that it doesn't even matter at all x_x. I had assumed stats barely mattered, but I didn't know even WEAPON stats were this useless, you have almost no reason at all to upgrade your gear or anything ever...

I don't understand why you're getting so defensive and being so rude and like "OMG YOU'RE WRONG AND TROLLING STOP TROLLING!" when my EYEBALLING showed a minor damage difference(seemed like 0) and your "testing" showed basically the same thing almost. I don't even know if your testing is correct, it's such a small sample size and my damage varied by 10ish with BOTH bows, (20-30ish damage with bow1, 20-30ish with bow2)which is why I just said they do the same damage.

Really, no idea why you're arguing, this is a dumb argument and we're both right, stop being a jerk about it.

[viion]

to hell with this!

Got 3 - brand spanking new bows, 1 much higher than me, Crab, 1 2 ranks higher, and ofc the Weathered. I am rank 32 and will fight rank 32 Marmots. Will spend 20 mins on each bow and see results using Crabby3, I also have 3 types of arrows.

[Ruen]

Glad you've taken the time to make a record of this.. I've just been throwing my points in to HP/MP. Hope the issue is adressed soon but I doubt it.

[Cairdeas]

Attk does go beyond 999 in ff11 its just until abyssea it wasnt so easily reached and the fact that a gimpy gear person does less dmg than a elite geared person showed that the dmg/attk per mobs defense was scaled correctly. Also a lower lvled elite equipped character in ff11 always did more dmg than a slightly higher lvled gimp geared person . But with the current system in 14 all this crap is thrown out the window the only true deciding factor is your rank; while it played some role in ff11 it wasnt as harsh for the most. No i dont want to play ff11+1 but i do want to keep playing a game that does crap right or trys to make it right this game is still no where near pay to play standards was just lving my archer btw and a lvl 1 bow/arrows was doing exact same dmg as a lvl 11 bow on same mob...... so stop arguing the obvious. In 11 there was a shit ton of dif in the dmg dealt using a higher lvl more dmg weapon; in 14 the difference is mute.

The lowest Level I broke 1k damage in FFXI was level 50 Before TOAU was released as a War/Thf fully self buffed and doing SATA+ I think it was RR. ended up doing like 1500 on a Fly in Crawlers nest.

[Richard]

The point is the difference is so small, that it doesn't even matter at all x_x. I had assumed stats barely mattered, but I didn't know even WEAPON stats were this useless, you have almost no reason at all to upgrade your gear or anything ever...

I don't understand why you're getting so defensive and being so rude and like "OMG YOU'RE WRONG AND TROLLING STOP TROLLING!" when my EYEBALLING showed a minor damage difference(seemed like 0) and your "testing" showed basically the same thing almost. I don't even know if your testing is correct, it's such a small sample size and my damage varied by 10ish with BOTH bows, (20-30ish damage with bow1, 20-30ish with bow2)which is why I just said they do the same damage.

Really, no idea why you're arguing, this is a dumb argument and we're both right, stop being a jerk about it.

I'm sorry your internet feelings got hurt lol but I never took a personal stab at YOU only your tests/eyeballing/math. I put my data out there straight up and it came out supporting my side of the coin. I already stated that I agree with you that stats don't do much to influence this game and already agreed with you that it needs to be fixed. I'm not 'arguing' with you, just standing by my findings. We are both right, except I'm right about oranges and you're right about apples. Except oranges are more relevant than apples in regards to doing damage in FFXIV.

Pretty sure this thread has run it's course ~ I'll post the large batch testing at a later time when I'm not more interested in watching Game of Thrones.

[viion]

I do more dmg to a rank 34 Squirrel with my weathered than I did on the Algoat 22 lol But only with 20 dmg difference.