Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Zandiya]

Amazing but sadly I think this will be extremely difficult to pull off on the ps3

[Purutzil]

Priority > Rotation when it comes to speccs that involve dots/short term buffs/debuffs.

Rather then a 'rotation' its best to think of it more as a priority system. Do that and you found a much easier class to play. It looks more intimidating then it sounds. If you really want to see crazy, go jump on a monk and see how that quickly escalates.

Keep a good priority and you will see Dragoon is very easy to play.

[aray0002]

Amazing but sadly I think this will be extremely difficult to pull off on the ps3

I agree, I am on PS3 and even though the cross / hotbars are customized to ones liking. It's cumbersome and sometime just plain painful to watch my thumbs and fingers push the wrong buttons because of a left brain / right brain malfunction.

For you Guru's that are posting this.. you think you can put together a MACRO for us PS3 users.

I'm not talking acronyms either. Some of us who play this game are actually just casual gamers. The algorithm examples listed in this thread make my freaking HEAD hurt. I just want some basic simplicity in the example of a Full Rotation / Macro

This game is killing me man. When i fought the Demon Wall in AK i swear my DPS was freaking LOW and yeah I had Ifrits weapon.
Something was wrong and i guess it was me spamming the same skill over and over. Help a brother out.

[Vies]

I agree, I am on PS3 and even though the cross / hotbars are customized to ones liking. It's cumbersome and sometime just plain painful to watch my thumbs and fingers push the wrong buttons because of a left brain / right brain malfunction.

For you Guru's that are posting this.. you think you can put together a MACRO for us PS3 users.

I'm not talking acronyms either. Some of us who play this game are actually just casual gamers. The algorithm examples listed in this thread make my freaking HEAD hurt. I just want some basic simplicity in the example of a Full Rotation / Macro

This game is killing me man. When i fought the Demon Wall in AK i swear my DPS was freaking LOW and yeah I had Ifrits weapon.
Something was wrong and i guess it was me spamming the same skill over and over. Help a brother out.

The best suggestion I can make here is to invest in a keyboard/mouse compatible with the PS3. That might not be as helpful as suggesting macros(I haven't played around with those myself yet), but it's a much better control scheme than a controller.

[ChaozK]

I dont see the problem with using Dragoons on gamepad, i am doing fine with it personally. I use some very minor macros to save up some clutter but thats it. The gamepad actually even makes movement a bit more comfortable. Its a bit harder to attack while moving on keyboard and mouse.

This game is killing me man. When i fought the Demon Wall in AK i swear my DPS was freaking LOW and yeah I had Ifrits weapon.
Something was wrong and i guess it was me spamming the same skill over and over. Help a brother out.

Did you know that you can still get flanks on demon wall? Get your heavy thrust! Other than that make sure your Phlebotomize and Fracture are always ticking. After the Knockback use a Spineshatter Dive or Dragonfire Dive to get back to the wall as fast possible.

[Griffeth]

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For you Guru's that are posting this.. you think you can put together a MACRO for us PS3 users.

I'm not talking acronyms either. Some of us who play this game are actually just casual gamers. The algorithm examples listed in this thread make my freaking HEAD hurt. I just want some basic simplicity in the example of a Full Rotation / Macro
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/ac "Blood for Blood"
/ac "Phlebotomize"

/ac "Life Surge"
/ac "Full Thrust"

/ac "Power Surge"
/ac "Impulse Drive"

/ac "Jump"
/ac "Disembowel"

/ac "Internal Release"
/ac "Chaos Thrust"

Those should be some basic ones that will trigger your CD's for their important abilities and should free up some action bar space. You can also just hit them once (for the case of the last 3 being your behind the target combo) to trigger the OGCD abilitites between your TT->FT combo.

[Jamison]

The best suggestion I can make here is to invest in a keyboard/mouse compatible with the PS3. That might not be as helpful as suggesting macros(I haven't played around with those myself yet), but it's a much better control scheme than a controller.

Unfortunately this isn't an option. (Unless something changed) there was an announcement that keyboard/mouse as an interface was not being implemented on the PS3 due to memory limitations, and a keyboard could only be used for typing.

I agree, I am on PS3 and even though the cross / hotbars are customized to ones liking. It's cumbersome and sometime just plain painful to watch my thumbs and fingers push the wrong buttons because of a left brain / right brain malfunction.

For you Guru's that are posting this.. you think you can put together a MACRO for us PS3 users.

I'm not talking acronyms either. Some of us who play this game are actually just casual gamers. The algorithm examples listed in this thread make my freaking HEAD hurt. I just want some basic simplicity in the example of a Full Rotation / Macro

This game is killing me man. When i fought the Demon Wall in AK i swear my DPS was freaking LOW and yeah I had Ifrits weapon.
Something was wrong and i guess it was me spamming the same skill over and over. Help a brother out.

I've toyed with a bunch of macros, from simple to complicated, and as time goes on I use them less and less (choosing to have the skills naively on a button instead).

Here are some random thoughts/tips/experiences that I've had:

• Make sure you set every one of your crossbars to show either only in, or only out, of combat. I have 1-4 only in combat, and 5-8 only out of combat.
• You may also want to set your weapon to never auto-sheath... you risk hitting an action you didn't want to.
• Additionally, you can further set which crossbars will toggle with a single tap of R1.
• DRG only really needs two crossbars for all the skills you'll use regularly (for me, cbar 1 and 2. cbar 4 contains AoE skills and limit break, which is switched to manually when needed).
• You can duplicate skills on both crossbars, i.e. leg sweep, so that it's always on the same button no matter which crossbar you are on.
• My crossbars are largely the same, the main difference being the two main combos change. Again, it's a single tap of R1 to switch between them. There are some other small differences but nothing important
• As for the macros themselves, you can tie your off-global cool down actions to the GCD action to you want to use it right before. The downside is there's no queuing of actions this way (you cannot pre-input a command) and you have to spam that button non-stop the entire time to make sure both the OGCD and GCD both fire as quickly as possible.
• You can add Power Surge to a macro with Jump and Spineshatter, but remember you wouldn't actually want to use those both in a row. You'd want to use a GCD ability in between. But with the way macros work, you can put several items in one macro and it will skip over anything it cannot execute. So the first time I hit that macro, Power Surge goes off. The next time I hit that macro, Jump goes off because Power Surge is on cooldown.
• You can, but it's a terribly bad idea, put all three actions of a combo in one macro (with a /wait 3 between them) but it would be a significant loss of DPS.
• You can also add a command to change your crossbar after an action... for example after the third action of a combo that macro can then also /chotbar X setting you up for your next combo. I've never actually used this one so I can't speak for how well it works in combat.
• I put all my defensive actions into 1 macro. If things go bad, I fire everything defensively I can by spamming that button. Not the absolute best way of doing it, but to save that crossbar space I find it worthwhile.

[BakaChin]

Amazing but sadly I think this will be extremely difficult to pull off on the ps3

Im with you there...can anyone recommend a decent rotation based on the PS3 config? We only hav 16 configurable actions on a single set

[Januzeal]

I have no problem pulling this off on the ps3, actually it seems to be really fun and it's not as hard as it sounds as long as you keep an eye on you buffs & debuffs

[BrandoH]

I have no problem pulling this off on the ps3, actually it seems to be really fun and it's not as hard as it sounds as long as you keep an eye on you buffs & debuffs

it's a lot easier with the third bar.