Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Griffeth]

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For you Guru's that are posting this.. you think you can put together a MACRO for us PS3 users.

I'm not talking acronyms either. Some of us who play this game are actually just casual gamers. The algorithm examples listed in this thread make my freaking HEAD hurt. I just want some basic simplicity in the example of a Full Rotation / Macro
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/ac "Blood for Blood"
/ac "Phlebotomize"

/ac "Life Surge"
/ac "Full Thrust"

/ac "Power Surge"
/ac "Impulse Drive"

/ac "Jump"
/ac "Disembowel"

/ac "Internal Release"
/ac "Chaos Thrust"

Those should be some basic ones that will trigger your CD's for their important abilities and should free up some action bar space. You can also just hit them once (for the case of the last 3 being your behind the target combo) to trigger the OGCD abilitites between your TT->FT combo.

[Jamison]

The best suggestion I can make here is to invest in a keyboard/mouse compatible with the PS3. That might not be as helpful as suggesting macros(I haven't played around with those myself yet), but it's a much better control scheme than a controller.

Unfortunately this isn't an option. (Unless something changed) there was an announcement that keyboard/mouse as an interface was not being implemented on the PS3 due to memory limitations, and a keyboard could only be used for typing.

I agree, I am on PS3 and even though the cross / hotbars are customized to ones liking. It's cumbersome and sometime just plain painful to watch my thumbs and fingers push the wrong buttons because of a left brain / right brain malfunction.

For you Guru's that are posting this.. you think you can put together a MACRO for us PS3 users.

I'm not talking acronyms either. Some of us who play this game are actually just casual gamers. The algorithm examples listed in this thread make my freaking HEAD hurt. I just want some basic simplicity in the example of a Full Rotation / Macro

This game is killing me man. When i fought the Demon Wall in AK i swear my DPS was freaking LOW and yeah I had Ifrits weapon.
Something was wrong and i guess it was me spamming the same skill over and over. Help a brother out.

I've toyed with a bunch of macros, from simple to complicated, and as time goes on I use them less and less (choosing to have the skills naively on a button instead).

Here are some random thoughts/tips/experiences that I've had:

• Make sure you set every one of your crossbars to show either only in, or only out, of combat. I have 1-4 only in combat, and 5-8 only out of combat.
• You may also want to set your weapon to never auto-sheath... you risk hitting an action you didn't want to.
• Additionally, you can further set which crossbars will toggle with a single tap of R1.
• DRG only really needs two crossbars for all the skills you'll use regularly (for me, cbar 1 and 2. cbar 4 contains AoE skills and limit break, which is switched to manually when needed).
• You can duplicate skills on both crossbars, i.e. leg sweep, so that it's always on the same button no matter which crossbar you are on.
• My crossbars are largely the same, the main difference being the two main combos change. Again, it's a single tap of R1 to switch between them. There are some other small differences but nothing important
• As for the macros themselves, you can tie your off-global cool down actions to the GCD action to you want to use it right before. The downside is there's no queuing of actions this way (you cannot pre-input a command) and you have to spam that button non-stop the entire time to make sure both the OGCD and GCD both fire as quickly as possible.
• You can add Power Surge to a macro with Jump and Spineshatter, but remember you wouldn't actually want to use those both in a row. You'd want to use a GCD ability in between. But with the way macros work, you can put several items in one macro and it will skip over anything it cannot execute. So the first time I hit that macro, Power Surge goes off. The next time I hit that macro, Jump goes off because Power Surge is on cooldown.
• You can, but it's a terribly bad idea, put all three actions of a combo in one macro (with a /wait 3 between them) but it would be a significant loss of DPS.
• You can also add a command to change your crossbar after an action... for example after the third action of a combo that macro can then also /chotbar X setting you up for your next combo. I've never actually used this one so I can't speak for how well it works in combat.
• I put all my defensive actions into 1 macro. If things go bad, I fire everything defensively I can by spamming that button. Not the absolute best way of doing it, but to save that crossbar space I find it worthwhile.

[BakaChin]

Amazing but sadly I think this will be extremely difficult to pull off on the ps3

Im with you there...can anyone recommend a decent rotation based on the PS3 config? We only hav 16 configurable actions on a single set

[Januzeal]

I have no problem pulling this off on the ps3, actually it seems to be really fun and it's not as hard as it sounds as long as you keep an eye on you buffs & debuffs

[BrandoH]

I have no problem pulling this off on the ps3, actually it seems to be really fun and it's not as hard as it sounds as long as you keep an eye on you buffs & debuffs

it's a lot easier with the third bar.

[Senzura]

I never think sweep should be in a rotation. The DPS you lose moving out of an AoE is greater than that which you gain from 2 seconds of stun, thats not mentioning the potential threat your tank could lose.

[Ayvar]

I never think sweep should be in a rotation. The DPS you lose moving out of an AoE is greater than that which you gain from 2 seconds of stun, thats not mentioning the potential threat your tank could lose.

Considering the guide is for level 50 dragoons (since Chaos Thrust is being used), the only times you'd get to utilize the full rotation would be on boss fights, in which case the stun wouldn't be a factor. In addition, the boss fights that do have adds spawn them at specific times, in which case it is easy enough to not use Leg Sweep if you know an add with AE will be spawning soon.

Either way, I Leg Sweep as part of my rotation all the time. If I need it for an AE I don't do it, I trust other dragoons to play with similar discretion.

[Starkbeaumont]

Either way, I Leg Sweep as part of my rotation all the time. If I need it for an AE I don't do it, I trust other dragoons to play with similar discretion.

Hope you don't use it on Ifrit.

[Zoot]

Can anyone explain the purpose of JUMP beyond looking badass? The "Return to Original Location" seems odd. I can see it having use as a second ranged attack for those times when we need to get out of the fire but I'd prefer JUMP to be a gap closer.

Am I missing something? Literally just unlocked Dragoon.

Thanx for the nice Guide BTW.

[MalcolmReynolds]

Can anyone explain the purpose of JUMP beyond looking badass? The "Return to Original Location" seems odd. I can see it having use as a second ranged attack for those times when we need to get out of the fire but I'd prefer JUMP to be a gap closer.

Am I missing something? Literally just unlocked Dragoon.

Thanx for the nice Guide BTW.

The other two offensive jumps act as gap closers. I'm okay with it as it currently is though I would prefer if regular jump acted that way as well. Though the lack of evasion during the Jump animation is my biggest complaint.