To the people who are logged in overnight

[RaidenTaichou]

Personally, though, I have been impacted. I have become wary of the people with whom I play. Even though I have been asked to join multiple Free Companies, I have refused--not because I do not want to join, but because I fear playing with a group that abuses the AFK system. And when I help people in the field as a WHM, I find myself acting out of principle rather than a joyful willing.

I hope that the community improves as the game ages, but I fear that since selfishness has dominated the game’s launch, a time at which everyone should be excited to play and experience the world together, the community will gradually wither.

Not joining an FC....(possible good ones?) since some members might afk....i just dont even know how to respond...thats gotta be some of the dumbest shit Ive ever heard in my life.

[ninjarider1975]

i am an adult...so why cant you just log off when your done...and let others play the game instead you AFKer's just lag the whole system down. if you dont move for an hour it should be an automatic boot....

[Lissandra]

I'm curious about this in relation to the JP. Are they more considerate and actually log off when not playing for a long period of time, or do they, just as a chunk of the English speaking players, stay logged in 24/7?

As for myself I always log off when I go to bed, or am away for hours.

[J-Gnome]

Not joining an FC....(possible good ones?) since some members might afk....i just dont even know how to respond...thats gotta be some of the dumbest shit Ive ever heard in my life.

It is dumb not to want to play with those who would put selfish desires above the enjoyment of others?

You seem not to understand that the problem of abusing the AFK system lies deeper than the act itself. Those who are willing to abuse the system do so because they do not care what happens to other players. Their selfishness is bred from a mindset that immediate gratification is far superior to the fostering of a stable, kind community. In a few weeks, when the server problems are fixed, will the game lie in ruin because of the AFK players? Probably not. But the people who were cruel enough to abuse the AFK system will mostly remain, and they will continue to act against the game in ways that will only cause the community to further decline over time.

[explodingbullet]

Exactly! They certainly ARE NOT missing much when their character is just standing there. I tell this to the children in my class during naptime (I work at a daycare), "go to sleep, you are not going to miss anything!" Seriously, get off the game and do something else besides hogging server space! I even have the decency to get what I want done on the game, finish it, then log off.

not only have i found a teacher who isn't a hypocrite, but one that plays video games and is not selfish! *brain overhaul does not compute*
on a side not got home from work to get online and "jp character list cannot update".... wut?

[RaidenTaichou]

It is dumb not to want to play with those who would put selfish desires above the enjoyment of others?

You seem not to understand that the problem of abusing the AFK system lies deeper than the act itself. Those who are willing to abuse the system do so because they do not care what happens to other players. Their selfishness is bred from a mindset that immediate gratification is far superior to the fostering of a stable, kind community. In a few weeks, when the server problems are fixed, will the game lie in ruin because of the AFK players? Probably not. But the people who were cruel enough to abuse the AFK system will mostly remain, and they will continue to act against the game in ways that will only cause the community to further decline over time.

I paid for the game to get leet gear and relic weapons....not deal with wanna be philosophers trying to put people on guilt trips for doing nothing wrong.

[Wraven]

Not gonna log out so I can never get back in and avoid making my next relic so some noob can spam fates all day.

Ah, so since you are so "elite" and have been able to progress further than others, you deserve to play whenever you want. Thanks for explaining your reasoning so eloquently.

[Aydn]

It is dumb not to want to play with those who would put selfish desires above the enjoyment of others?

You seem not to understand that the problem of abusing the AFK system lies deeper than the act itself. Those who are willing to abuse the system do so because they do not care what happens to other players. Their selfishness is bred from a mindset that immediate gratification is far superior to the fostering of a stable, kind community. In a few weeks, when the server problems are fixed, will the game lie in ruin because of the AFK players? Probably not. But the people who were cruel enough to abuse the AFK system will mostly remain, and they will continue to act against the game in ways that will only cause the community to further decline over time.

The fact you're blaming the community, when they can't even play the game and use a "workaround" after finally logging on...shows how White Knight some people really are around here. It isn't abusing something if it is in the game.

You probably get mad when you lose to a fighting game player who just keeps using the same attack too. Players will use any means of winning. At this point logging into the game = winning.

[Kirb]

In a few weeks, when the server problems are fixed, will the game lie in ruin because of the AFK players? Probably not. But the people who were cruel enough to abuse the AFK system will mostly remain, and they will continue to act against the game in ways that will only cause the community to further decline over time.

You're trying to read a little too deeply into the mindset of the people who are going AFK. It doesn't mean they're terrible people, or that they're going to do terrible things to ruin the game in the future. Personally I've done the AFK a few times, and I've also just logged out sometimes. I logged out Friday, tried periodically to get back on Saturday, and then that evening when I got back on I stayed afk until today because I did want to get some playing done on the weekend. I'm not some horrible person who hates people and will slight everyone at every chance I get. I'm just a guy who wanted to play FFXIV this weekend.

[Stormsoul]

I'm not some horrible person who hates people and will slight everyone at every chance I get. I'm just a guy who wanted to play FFXIV this weekend.

i agree with this statement completely. people want to paint it black and white, to blame and demonize the players, who aren't even responsible for this issue. we have people blaming and demeaning others simply because they want to *GASP* play the game they bought! so horrible! that makes them such bad people, right? that they're staying logged in and taking slots from other people that they have no obligations or duties to!

it's ridiculous. you can't expect people to really care about a random faceless person behind a computer when it's something as trivial as being able to log into a game. it doesn't make you a baby puncher or anything silly like that, or even a bad person if you decide you want to stay logged in so you can play. no one is to blame here but square themselves for being unprepared. all of this worthless back and forth bickering between the two groups is absurdity at it's finest, and i can guarantee you nobody will even remember or care about this topic in a month's time.