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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Gnome View Post
    Personally, though, I have been impacted. I have become wary of the people with whom I play. Even though I have been asked to join multiple Free Companies, I have refused--not because I do not want to join, but because I fear playing with a group that abuses the AFK system. And when I help people in the field as a WHM, I find myself acting out of principle rather than a joyful willing.

    I hope that the community improves as the game ages, but I fear that since selfishness has dominated the game’s launch, a time at which everyone should be excited to play and experience the world together, the community will gradually wither.
    Not joining an FC....(possible good ones?) since some members might afk....i just dont even know how to respond...thats gotta be some of the dumbest shit Ive ever heard in my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaidenTaichou View Post
    Not joining an FC....(possible good ones?) since some members might afk....i just dont even know how to respond...thats gotta be some of the dumbest shit Ive ever heard in my life.
    It is dumb not to want to play with those who would put selfish desires above the enjoyment of others?

    You seem not to understand that the problem of abusing the AFK system lies deeper than the act itself. Those who are willing to abuse the system do so because they do not care what happens to other players. Their selfishness is bred from a mindset that immediate gratification is far superior to the fostering of a stable, kind community. In a few weeks, when the server problems are fixed, will the game lie in ruin because of the AFK players? Probably not. But the people who were cruel enough to abuse the AFK system will mostly remain, and they will continue to act against the game in ways that will only cause the community to further decline over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Gnome View Post
    It is dumb not to want to play with those who would put selfish desires above the enjoyment of others?

    You seem not to understand that the problem of abusing the AFK system lies deeper than the act itself. Those who are willing to abuse the system do so because they do not care what happens to other players. Their selfishness is bred from a mindset that immediate gratification is far superior to the fostering of a stable, kind community. In a few weeks, when the server problems are fixed, will the game lie in ruin because of the AFK players? Probably not. But the people who were cruel enough to abuse the AFK system will mostly remain, and they will continue to act against the game in ways that will only cause the community to further decline over time.
    I paid for the game to get leet gear and relic weapons....not deal with wanna be philosophers trying to put people on guilt trips for doing nothing wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Gnome View Post
    It is dumb not to want to play with those who would put selfish desires above the enjoyment of others?

    You seem not to understand that the problem of abusing the AFK system lies deeper than the act itself. Those who are willing to abuse the system do so because they do not care what happens to other players. Their selfishness is bred from a mindset that immediate gratification is far superior to the fostering of a stable, kind community. In a few weeks, when the server problems are fixed, will the game lie in ruin because of the AFK players? Probably not. But the people who were cruel enough to abuse the AFK system will mostly remain, and they will continue to act against the game in ways that will only cause the community to further decline over time.

    The fact you're blaming the community, when they can't even play the game and use a "workaround" after finally logging on...shows how White Knight some people really are around here. It isn't abusing something if it is in the game.

    You probably get mad when you lose to a fighting game player who just keeps using the same attack too. Players will use any means of winning. At this point logging into the game = winning.
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    Last edited by Aydn; 09-02-2013 at 08:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aydn View Post
    The fact you're blaming the community, when they can't even play the game and use a "workaround" after finally logging on...shows how White Knight some people really are around here. It isn't abusing something if it is in the game.
    "White knight," you say. Was it really necessary to resort to such a trite saying instead of expressing an actual opinion?

    SE was at fault. They failed to prepare properly for the game's launch. But the past cannot be changed. Until SE fixes the servers, we as a community are left with two options:

    1) Work together to ensure that a troubled launch is as enjoyable as possible for everyone participating.

    2) Act only for ourselves, caring not what lasting impact our actions have on the community.

    You are free to believe what you will. As I wrote before, I do not expect to change the opinions of anyone. I merely express my disappointment and (faltering) hope that the community will improve/recover over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Gnome View Post
    "White knight," you say. Was it really necessary to resort to such a trite saying instead of expressing an actual opinion?

    SE was at fault. They failed to prepare properly for the game's launch. But the past cannot be changed. Until SE fixes the servers, we as a community are left with two options:

    1) Work together to ensure that a troubled launch is as enjoyable as possible for everyone participating.



    2) Act only for ourselves, caring not what lasting impact our actions have on the community.

    You are free to believe what you will. As I wrote before, I do not expect to change the opinions of anyone. I merely express my disappointment and (faltering) hope that the community will improve/recover over time.
    Next time you quote someone, be sure to include the whole thing. Especially when you call out someone for an opinion, which is clearly stated in the post you copied...which means you left it out intentionally...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aydn View Post
    Next time you quote someone, be sure to include the whole thing. Especially when you call out someone for an opinion, which is clearly stated in the post you copied...which means you left it out intentionally...lol
    Nope. I left it out because I am limited to a 1000-character response in my posts. And so as to meet the limit, I left that particular part out for two reasons:

    1) It was a personal attack on my character (and not the argument I raised).

    2) You added that part in as an edit to your original post, which caused me to deem it least relevant.
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