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  1. #201
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    Deculture's Avatar
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    Shurelia Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Dragoon would be a whole lot better if Heavy Thrust was changed to apply the buff if you're behind a target in addition to flank and our multitude of jumps didn't animation lock us for 1-3 seconds. The former would actually allow me to turn back on spell effects for other players (so I could actually see the amazing Meteor limit breaks and whatnot) while the latter would up DRG dps simply because you wouldn't have to hold off on Jumping if there's even a chance that an AoE would be dropped on top of you anytime soon/spell you need to stun.
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  2. #202
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    Vix_Spellweaver's Avatar
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    Vix Kujata
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I just jumped to the end ^_^
    I vote a well tuned and skilled Monk.
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  3. #203
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    Riot55's Avatar
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    Riot Losstarot
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    That log parser just goes through the chat and does not take into consideration DoTs. It's not accurate.
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  4. #204
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Spythe View Post
    I've seen high lv BRD streams and a youtube video displaying BRD single damage rotation doesn't change at all but getting Windbite at mid 30s. AoE is a bit different and they also have a nice debuff but I just find the class boring to play in dungeons.

    A lot of people are under estimating what a Dragoon actually brings to groups. Amazing burst damage for target switching, the slow debuff(think other classes bring this as well), threat drop move so threat isn't a huge issue, 2 set of stuns(not that great since most bosses are immune let game), and solid AOE damage. I think the Piercing debuff may also give extra dmg to BRD. If SE changes jump to make Dragoon immune/avoid to dmg while they jump and they will be great.
    Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

    and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.
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  5. #205
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Riot55 View Post
    That log parser just goes through the chat and does not take into consideration DoTs. It's not accurate.
    the one from Zam tracks dots i have tested it personally.
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  6. #206
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    kukurumei's Avatar
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

    and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.
    Drgs are consistent and have the highest burst damage potential. They can take more then a few hits. Generic would be the phrase for Drg.

    As oppose to mnk, which is more party reliant, but brings more to the table.

    You're going to need a melee member. There' no getting around that.

    Trying to armchair your way drgs aren't needed is to armchair your way breakfast isn't needed. It's an unhealthy idea in the end.

    There's a decent balance currently that everyone has a fairly equal chance.
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  7. #207
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    Thotor's Avatar
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Riot55 View Post
    That log parser just goes through the chat and does not take into consideration DoTs. It's not accurate.
    It does, else BRD would be bottom.
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  8. #208
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    Layenem Aturfete
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

    and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.
    lmfao you should play with better drgs... just a thought
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  9. #209
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Layenem View Post
    lmfao you should play with better drgs... just a thought
    i'm not playing with bad ones... its just the way it is. My guild has killed both Ifrit and garuda hard mode, you cannot be scrubs and kill Garuda.
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  11. #210
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    AldricBranchais's Avatar
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    Character
    Alis Cefr
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by bowz View Post
    CNJ is obviously the best DPS class in the game...
    /thread

    10char.
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    Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference.

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