Best DPS class in the game?

[Spythe]

Archers are overpowered as hell and way to easy and boring to play as, i guess if you enjoy puting half your rotation on one macro and spamming that and calling it fun more power to you, monk is alot harder but the PUG's rotation is much more satisfying if you know how to do it

Yup agree 100% with the BRD comment, when I first started I want to be a BRD but after the first instance I changed my mind quickly. Its just sooooo boring to play compared to other classes but it makes sense why they are number 1 in terms of damage.

How are people judging damage btw? There are no mods to truly say and I highly doubt people are switching out DPS to run instances then checking how fast it takes.

[TheWitcher]

Yup agree 100% with the BRD comment, when I first started I want to be a BRD but after the first instance I changed my mind quickly. Its just sooooo boring to play compared to other classes but it makes sense why they are number 1 in terms of damage.

How are people judging damage btw? There are no mods to truly say and I highly doubt people are switching out DPS to run instances then checking how fast it takes.

I dont see the rational for Bards having the amount of damage they have, the have by far the strongest support of any DPS class and have no right having top 1 DPS compared to Classes like Dragoon that have zero utility and are melee which means they take more damage, they really have no buisness having the amazing kit that they do and imo a Bard should be the lowest DPS of all the Dps classes because the have the strongest support

Anyone whos played the classes in beta and on live can tell who does the most DPS, just by playing them you can tell which one is better, and combined with Simplistic rotations BLM and Bard are easily the top DPS characters right now

[Eckoh]

Anyone whos played the classes in beta and on live can tell who does the most DPS, just by playing them you can tell which one is better, and combined with Simplistic rotations BLM and Bard are easily the top DPS characters right now

Sorry but managing a white mages mana while still trying to max DPS is not "easy" part of the challenge on bard is to know when to use song and when not to, not only do you need to make sure the healers have mana you cannot gimp yourself while DPSing burns for DPS checks.

Not to mention what you epicly failed at realizing is there is not "support" classes there are classes with support. Scholars have the ability to increase skill an casting speed by 30% that is HUGE.

[Eckoh]

Also when you get to the hard modes there is every bit as much stuff for ranged dodge as well as melee. Dragoons and Monks simply get to tunnel DPS and not step in fire. Bards have to not step in file while being in relation to every mana user in raid and know when to use what song to get the best bang for the buck while not nerfing their own damage, and if you think a level 20 archer is the same as a level 50 bard in terms of play then you really are clueless.

[kukurumei]

I dont see the rational for Bards having the amount of damage they have, the have by far the strongest support of any DPS class and have no right having top 1 DPS compared to Classes like Dragoon that have zero utility and are melee which means they take more damage, they really have no buisness having the amazing kit that they do and imo a Bard should be the lowest DPS of all the Dps classes because the have the strongest support

Anyone whos played the classes in beta and on live can tell who does the most DPS, just by playing them you can tell which one is better, and combined with Simplistic rotations BLM and Bard are easily the top DPS characters right now

Sword dance LB.

Though the content does favor range heavily, that's only if they know the trick. If they don't brds are like the first to die...hard. They can't heal, they have no def, no HP, and they are hard to save unlike melees which are close to the tank.

and again Sword dance.

Every damage class has a weakness right now. Mnks fall off a cliff if they can't position, Drg's are the new drk, blms no longer have single damage prowess, brds can't take a hit, smn's can't burst, etc, etc, etc.

Their strengths are pretty much the same, Mnks are versatile and charge LB really fast, Drgs hit hard no matter what, blms aoe and sleep are godly in many fights, brds are consistant, and smns are super safe.

For most of the content Sword Dance LB owns so, you should almost always have a mnk/drg in your pt to make life easier. Can't say that for a brd.

[Thotor]

How are people judging damage btw? There are no mods to truly say and I highly doubt people are switching out DPS to run instances then checking how fast it takes.

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Songs is not something that must be always on. Good healers do not need mana songs except for a few encounters.
I see most healers wasting their mana.
Requiem is more important than mana song and does not apply a 20% dmg penalty.

You cannot judge a class at low level. BRD is weak and boring till lvl 45+ and it really shines at 48. There is no fixed rotation since you rely on proc.

[Eckoh]

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Songs is not something that must be always on. Good healers do not need mana songs except for a few encounters.
I see most healers wasting their mana.
Requiem is more important than mana song and does not apply a 20% dmg penalty.

You cannot judge a class at low level. BRD is weak and boring till lvl 45+ and it really shines at 48. There is no fixed rotation since you rely on proc.

you have not done any of the hard modes yet... You are not killing that stuff without a bard using songs.

[Spythe]

You cannot judge a class at low level. BRD is weak and boring till lvl 45+ and it really shines at 48. There is no fixed rotation since you rely on proc.

I've seen high lv BRD streams and a youtube video displaying BRD single damage rotation doesn't change at all but getting Windbite at mid 30s. AoE is a bit different and they also have a nice debuff but I just find the class boring to play in dungeons.

A lot of people are under estimating what a Dragoon actually brings to groups. Amazing burst damage for target switching, the slow debuff(think other classes bring this as well), threat drop move so threat isn't a huge issue, 2 set of stuns(not that great since most bosses are immune let game), and solid AOE damage. I think the Piercing debuff may also give extra dmg to BRD. If SE changes jump to make Dragoon immune/avoid to dmg while they jump and they will be great.

[Eckoh]

I've seen high lv BRD streams and a youtube video displaying BRD single damage rotation doesn't change at all but getting Windbite at mid 30s. AoE is a bit different and they also have a nice debuff but I just find the class boring to play in dungeons.

A lot of people are under estimating what a Dragoon actually brings to groups. Amazing burst damage for target switching, the slow debuff(think other classes bring this as well), threat drop move so threat isn't a huge issue, 2 set of stuns(not that great since most bosses are immune let game), and solid AOE damage. I think the Piercing debuff may also give extra dmg to BRD. If SE changes jump to make Dragoon immune/avoid to dmg while they jump and they will be great.

Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.

[kukurumei]

Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.

Drgs are consistent and have the highest burst damage potential. They can take more then a few hits. Generic would be the phrase for Drg.

As oppose to mnk, which is more party reliant, but brings more to the table.

You're going to need a melee member. There' no getting around that.

Trying to armchair your way drgs aren't needed is to armchair your way breakfast isn't needed. It's an unhealthy idea in the end.

There's a decent balance currently that everyone has a fairly equal chance.