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    Spythe's Avatar
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    Spythe West
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 44
    Quote Originally Posted by Thotor View Post
    You cannot judge a class at low level. BRD is weak and boring till lvl 45+ and it really shines at 48. There is no fixed rotation since you rely on proc.
    I've seen high lv BRD streams and a youtube video displaying BRD single damage rotation doesn't change at all but getting Windbite at mid 30s. AoE is a bit different and they also have a nice debuff but I just find the class boring to play in dungeons.

    A lot of people are under estimating what a Dragoon actually brings to groups. Amazing burst damage for target switching, the slow debuff(think other classes bring this as well), threat drop move so threat isn't a huge issue, 2 set of stuns(not that great since most bosses are immune let game), and solid AOE damage. I think the Piercing debuff may also give extra dmg to BRD. If SE changes jump to make Dragoon immune/avoid to dmg while they jump and they will be great.
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Spythe View Post
    I've seen high lv BRD streams and a youtube video displaying BRD single damage rotation doesn't change at all but getting Windbite at mid 30s. AoE is a bit different and they also have a nice debuff but I just find the class boring to play in dungeons.

    A lot of people are under estimating what a Dragoon actually brings to groups. Amazing burst damage for target switching, the slow debuff(think other classes bring this as well), threat drop move so threat isn't a huge issue, 2 set of stuns(not that great since most bosses are immune let game), and solid AOE damage. I think the Piercing debuff may also give extra dmg to BRD. If SE changes jump to make Dragoon immune/avoid to dmg while they jump and they will be great.
    Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

    and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

    and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.
    Drgs are consistent and have the highest burst damage potential. They can take more then a few hits. Generic would be the phrase for Drg.

    As oppose to mnk, which is more party reliant, but brings more to the table.

    You're going to need a melee member. There' no getting around that.

    Trying to armchair your way drgs aren't needed is to armchair your way breakfast isn't needed. It's an unhealthy idea in the end.

    There's a decent balance currently that everyone has a fairly equal chance.
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    Layenem Aturfete
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    Goons do not need a threat dump they cannot do enough damage to pull aggro off a tank...

    and their AoE is weak next to Black Mage and Bards... the ONLY thing a goon brings to a group is the single target limit break.
    lmfao you should play with better drgs... just a thought
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    Eckoh Saotome
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Layenem View Post
    lmfao you should play with better drgs... just a thought
    i'm not playing with bad ones... its just the way it is. My guild has killed both Ifrit and garuda hard mode, you cannot be scrubs and kill Garuda.
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    AldricBranchais's Avatar
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    Alis Cefr
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by bowz View Post
    CNJ is obviously the best DPS class in the game...
    /thread

    10char.
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    Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference.

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    Seyon Masters
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    Adamantoise
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Surprised with how many opinions and situational examples there are with close to no actual numbers. i know level ranges a good bit now as well as im sure gear comes into play, but saying monk > dragoon dps means little for balance if its like .1% higher. however if its like 200% higher then even bringing a great player as opposed to the good one, chances are the monk would be brought. some sort of numbers would be nice. if those at 50 have any free time for something standard like a 3-5 min dps test against a set level 50 dummy or somthing.

    i know ill definately spend a good bit of time on the dummy when i get 50, i plan to try to iron out the damage/crit formula and the like.
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