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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackShroudMercs View Post
    There was a thread on this I read earlier, I think people said it is because it only can be needed by the class that has optimal use for it, in other words yeah you can wear it but the tank would probably benefit more so you can only greed.
    That's just what I gathered from the conversation, as a DPS you would probably wear it for a shorter time because you upgrade a lot for better damage stats and what not.

    Not saying I agree with that, I think if it has LNC on it we should be allowed to need, but there you go..
    No. This gear has stats geared towards damage. Not parry, etc. LNC/DRG is SUPPOSED to be able to wear scale, but apparently no one told the loot system that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonas View Post
    No. This gear has stats geared towards damage. Not parry, etc. LNC/DRG is SUPPOSED to be able to wear scale, but apparently no one told the loot system that.
    If it had Crit Rating an Determination, then DRG/LNC gets priority. If it doesn't, then Tank gets Priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    If it had Crit Rating an Determination, then DRG/LNC gets priority. If it doesn't, then Tank gets Priority.
    I have real doubts with this. Based on what you say, for every item a tank can use (such as leather stuff marked as "Disciples of War"), the tank would get priority...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    If it had Crit Rating an Determination, then DRG/LNC gets priority. If it doesn't, then Tank gets Priority.
    No, its appalling that a fellow lancer would say such a thing.

    Plate offers far better Defense than Scale. Tanks should always be wearing gear with higher Defense. Even if the drop in a dungeon is Scale and happens to be better than their plate because their plate is out of date, that just means they need to update their plate mail _not_ roll on scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suldrun View Post
    I have real doubts with this. Based on what you say, for every item a tank can use (such as leather stuff marked as "Disciples of War"), the tank would get priority...
    It's Disciple of War isn't it? Don't WAR and PLD fit into DoW roles? So why wouldn't they be able to roll onto that gear?


    Quote Originally Posted by Zenmaku View Post
    No, its appalling that a fellow lancer would say such a thing.

    Plate offers far better Defense than Scale. Tanks should always be wearing gear with higher Defense. Even if the drop in a dungeon is Scale and happens to be better than their plate because their plate is out of date, that just means they need to update their plate mail _not_ roll on scale.
    It's not "appalling from a fellow Lancer". It's a game mechanic that I explained to you, not my personal opinion.

    If you want your baddass Scale Gear, look up "Darksteel" it's LNC/DRG specific Scale Gear with Crit and sockets. It's crafting gear. That's what you'd want I suppose.

    Also, you don't need all of that Defence in a dungeon, unless you're going to be careless about your positioning that is.
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    Yea you might not need all that def in a dungeon when you have a CNJ with you but how about the other 90% of the time when your questing solo? Having the highest possible def rating is never a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    It's Disciple of War isn't it? Don't WAR and PLD fit into DoW roles? So why wouldn't they be able to roll onto that gear?
    Yes, PLD and WAR are DoW and should might able to roll onto it (actually I think they can't as leather stuff only have dps stats but I could be wrong on this), but for the scale mail items - which ususally have dps stats and less lots defense than what tanks wear at that level, I would tend think that, as LNC fit into the MRD/GLD/LNC category they should be able to roll onto it too.
    Now, if you could explain me how http://xivdb.com/?item/2724/Aetherial-Iron-Elmo is a tanking item with tanking stats on it, I might agree with you
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    Last edited by Suldrun; 08-30-2013 at 05:54 PM.