So 1.0 owners have to start paying the monthly fee immediately?

[Listerfiend]

I read it. It still doesn't say anywhere on any document that the PC beta version and the PC free trial version are one and the same. I'm sorry, it's just not there.

He posted the quote:

Between October and December of 2012, we plan to integrate the current service and the coming PlayStation®3 version into the all-new FINAL FANTASY XIV. At this time, a second free trial period will also be offered.

Do ctrl-f to search for it, it is there. a free trial at the same time as ps3 beta. What does it mean?

[Holy_Dragoon]

I'll check this thread in the AM. Good luck in this argument, may the best / trollest? win/lose/getthethreadclosed.

[Listerfiend]

Hence I posted links an a picture. I didn't want to trap myself :P

While a bright thing to do, that other timeline is even more vague as to itemizing what happens near the end.

[Abriael]

Do ctrl-f to search for it, it is there. a free trial at the same time as ps3 beta. What does it mean?

Nothing. Because the timings have changed completely and multiple times. Also the PS3 beta is labeled beta, while the PC "free trial period" is not labeled beta. What does it mean?

Why didn't they call the PS3 beta a "free trial period" as well? or why didn't they call the PC "free trial" period a beta?

The only relevant part is that it promises a second "free trial period", and we know what a "free trial period" is.

[SkyeWindbinder]

He posted the quote:



Do ctrl-f to search for it, it is there. a free trial at the same time as ps3 beta. What does it mean?

A free trial at the same time as PS3 beta. But nothing about PC beta. And still nothing about the PC beta phases being officially considered part of the "free trial" phase for PC players.

So, calling the beta versions of the game on the PC just seems like a far-fetched assumption to me.

[Xandir]

and we know what a "free trial period" is.

Find me an official certified definition of Trial, which in no way contradicts your niche argument, and is not revised by you.

Then we'll talk.

<sarcasm>
(disclaimer: trials and demos can never occur in the form of beta, open or otherwise! Master Yoda deems this so fact!)
</sarcasm>

[Listerfiend]

<sarcasm>
(disclaimer: trials and demos can never occur in the form of beta, open or otherwise! Master Yoda deems this so fact!)
</sarcasm>

OK, you got me to laugh IRL. Well done. ^^

[Abriael]

Find me an official certified definition of Trial, which in no way contradicts your niche argument, and is not revised by you.

Then we'll talk.

I already did.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...41f0d8c4e88994

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...574cb9c3991c9f

In every single piece of communication from Square Enix itself the "free trial period" unequivocally refers to the period after the launch of Final Fantasy XIV in which people that purchased the game didn't pay monthly fees.

In no communication from Square Enix "free trial period" refers to a beta.

It's their definition, in their official cummunication, Not my interpretation.

[Xandir]

It's their definition, in their official cummunication, Not my interpretation.

Wait, so they defined the time when PS3 goes to beta as the free trial period?

That is a pretty clear definition.

So logically, when PS3 goes to beta, the free trial period begins.

And based on the other point:

- All FFXIV service account holders qualify as testers in phase 3.

Yeah, I guess you are right, phase 3 is the beginning of free trial.

Thanks for clearing that up, Abriael!

[Alhanelem]

No early access is ever longer than a week per industry standard. There's no indication that it's going to be longer for this game.

What are you talking about? lol...

There is no industry standard for early access. Not every game does them, and they have been of varying lengths.

People will feel entitled to what Square Enix promises, and Square Enix promised a free trial, that isn't being delivered.

Most of us have already been trying the game for free for at least phase 1 and/or 2 of the beta. There's 2 more phases. There's early access. I don't know how this couldn't possibly be more than enough FREE! for you. Early access is the free period they promised. There was no set date range or time period given- EVER- only a vague "current players get to play for free before the game is available to everyone else." Since all current players were automatically eligible to participate int he beta, that technically fufilles this.