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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Then why are you blowing such a small issue (and one that would argue isn't actually an issue at all) so massively out of porportion if your outlook is so positive. the tone of most of your posts has been extremely angry.

    This ISN'T A BIG DEAL. First, I don't agree with the position that they're breaking a promise. (For one, they never said "we promise....", they simply gave a rough timeline, which as I recall did include statements that the contents of the chart are subject to change) But even if I did, it is such a minor misgiving that I'm totally willing to forgive them for it because I've already gotten so much free enjoyment out of the game (I really don't give a rats behind whether it's finished or not- it's still free and it's still fun).
    For the reasons that I explained above.

    1: When a company communicates something to its customers, it counts as a commercial promise. "I promise" is not needed in order to make one. It influences customer choices and hype all the same. Promises can be adjusted, but this is a complete 180 without a real explanation, which isn't exactly pleasant to see.

    2: Pardon me if I quote myself:

    the lack of free trial seriously curbs the initial momentum the game will have.

    If there was a free trial for 1.0 account holders, you could be sure that a large majority of those 800,000 people would give the game a try, no matter how disgruntled they were by 1.0.

    Now that they have to pull out the credit card in order to even try the game, I'm not quite sure most of them will. The percentage will undoubtedly lower, and not by a little
    And since I care, I think it's a very bad idea. Starting the game with 800,000 people in the bag is great. Starting the game with less is a lot less great.

    Nobody has to pull out their card just to try the game. The beta more than plenty constitutes a way to try the game out for free. Does the beta have all the content? No. But what free trial actually gives you all the content or lasts long enough to actually play all the content if it does have it all?

    I really need to get going to bed, but have fun being angry at everyone else here for a trivial issue that should not have blown up into an 8 (or 16, if you are 10 posts per page) page thread.
    The beta doesn't show the full game and doesn't constitute a way to ascertain the final quality of a game. In betas by definition there are bugs, problems, stuff to fix, server issues and so forth. You really don't want people that came from 1.0 to judge the game on a beta where there's still stuff to fix.

    Trying the beta =/= trying the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    A game demo is a freely distributed demonstration or preview of an upcoming or recently released video game. Demos are typically released by the game's publisher to help consumers get a feel of the game before deciding whether to buy the full version... It gave consumers the chance to try a trial portion of the game, usually restricted to the game's complete first section or "episode", before purchasing the rest of the adventure. [].
    Only, Free Trial and Demo are two entirely different things. Keep changing the terminology instead of using what's officially used by Sqare Enix, mh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Only, Free Trial and Demo are two entirely different things. Keep changing the terminology instead of using what's officially used by Sqare Enix, mh?
    I didn't write this, it is a quote. It references demos as synonymous with both trials and open beta.

    And it proves that your definition is not the only definition, which means SE's definition of trial remains valid even if it is labled as beta or as a demo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    I didn't write this, it is a quote. It references demos as synonymous with both trials and open beta.

    And it proves that your definition is not the only definition, which means SE's definition of trial remains valid even if it is labled as beta or as a demo.
    First of all, wikipedia proves nothing. I can go there and change it at will, like everyone out there. Hell, I'm quoted on Wikipedia on numerous issues (including FFXIV), like I was some sort of authority lol.

    Secondly it just uses the term "trial" generically. It doesn't in any shape or form say that "demo" is a synonim of "free trial".

    As a matter of fact the term "demo" does not apply to MMORPGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    First of all, wikipedia proves nothing. I can go there and change it at will, like everyone out there. Hell, I'm quoted on Wikipedia on numerous issues (including FFXIV), like I was some sort of authority lol.

    Secondly it just uses the term "trial" generically. It doesn't in any shape or form say that "demo" is a synonim of "free trial".

    As a matter of fact the term "demo" does not apply to MMORPGs.
    if you change an article to something stupid or something obviously wrong, it will get changed back quickly. While citing wikipedia as a primary source by itself is not ideal, that doesn't mean that wikipedia is always wrong or isn't a good place to start for a preliminary information probe. I challenge you to find a print encylopedia or dictionary that differs drastically from what Wikipedia defines those terms to be.
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