Scholar... SAY WHUT?

[Vydos]

*snip*

A random and funny thought suddenly popped to mind. What if they added Scholar for the sole purpose of Soken's entertainment XD. I was just reminded to it when I read the "knee-high socks" in your image lol.

[ArkhamNative]

I'm surprised people haven't added this to the conversation~

Nice! I tried to list these items somewhere (so many thread about this...), but in general lots of people have noticed these when they say it's (almost) identical to FFXI Scholar AF.

There's a conflict between evidence that can be seen, and concepts based on v1's rules. I don't think either side doubts the others' points (looks like Scholar AF, book already reserved for Arcanist). It's kind of like one side says "believe your eyes!" and the other says "believe the v1 armoury system!".

I tend to believe my eyes, but also the consequences of putting other jobs' AF onto FF14 classes. I mean, what's next? To put Samurai AF in-game and assign it as Marauder's class-specific armor? Or Red Mage's iconic AF for Thaumaturge or Gladiator? That may not lock those classic Final Fantasy jobs from ever appearing in ARR, but they would have to abandon their iconic look from other FF games. This is what SE has already done to Scholar if indeed this is not Scholar.

[Klive]

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Scholar

EDIT: From link
Scholar (学者, Gakusha?) is a recurring Job in the Final Fantasy series. Experts in the theory of warfare, Scholars provide battlefield support and wear academic robes with mortar boards.

Like Red Mages, Scholars have access to both White and Black Magic, but with a far greater range of spells from which to choose -- and often automatic access to sensory magic. The trade-off is a lack of offensive ability; unlike Red Mages, Scholars may not wield swords or daggers, and instead go into battle armed with books or grimoires

That does fit the picture at all :P

[Pwnagraphic]

I don't understand what you're getting at... this is THM/BLM PvP armour, we know this =/ I don't get what you're implying.

PLD = Lion
WAR = Bear
DRG = ?
MNK = "Parroty thing"
BRD = ?
BLM = Fox
WHM = Swan

Yeah.. I know. You totally missed my point. Foxclon made sure to say THIS particular armor was "unique looking". All of them were unique looking.. Why did he choose to focus attenton on this one? That was my point which flew over your head. Anyway..


A lot of nay-saying going on in here. I think most it is just for the sake of arguing. I think it's a Scholar, but if I'm wrong, and everyone else who thinks the same thing, then oh well.

[Kinseykinz]

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Scholar

EDIT: From link
Scholar (学者, Gakusha?) is a recurring Job in the Final Fantasy series. Experts in the theory of warfare, Scholars provide battlefield support and wear academic robes with mortar boards.

Like Red Mages, Scholars have access to both White and Black Magic, but with a far greater range of spells from which to choose -- and often automatic access to sensory magic. The trade-off is a lack of offensive ability; unlike Red Mages, Scholars may not wield swords or daggers, and instead go into battle armed with books or grimoires

That does fit the picture at all :P

Okay all that said, how does THAT mage fit into THIS game? What is it's base class? What are it's subclasses? How does SCH not function like a CNJ...a class already in game? What special abilities would they have that would make a party want to recruit them over the mages already in game?

Yeah.. I know. You totally missed my point. Foxclon made sure to say THIS particular armor was "unique looking". All of them were unique looking.. Why did he choose to focus attenton on this one? That was my point which flew over your head. Anyway..


A lot of nay-saying going on in here. I think most it is just for the sake of arguing. I think it's a Scholar, but if I'm wrong, and everyone else who thinks the same thing, then oh well.

You're trying to imply a new race is being 'secretly added' along with a new 'job' I'll give you SCH is plausible...Viera is not...and once again, he's teasing the community.

[Klive]

[Bazi]

We're just gonna have to wait for E3 to find out more information. I don't see how people can not feel confident that they could have been working on multiple classes/jobs.

[Kinseykinz]

from supposedly 'those that can't'

Instead of being rude about it, why not answer the actual questions? You are taking one image from concept art and your knowledge that an old game in the same series had a character who looked similar and therefore they MUST be the same. But you are ignoring the whole 'how it worked' in that game thing. Conjurer IS basically a Scholar type of class per your definition:

Like Red Mages, Scholars have access to both White and Black Magic, but with a far greater range of spells from which to choose -- and often automatic access to sensory magic. The trade-off is a lack of offensive ability; unlike Red Mages, Scholars may not wield swords or daggers, and instead go into battle armed with books or grimoires
That does fit the picture at all :P

So again, How does that job you described fit into THIS game.


Could Scholar be a new Job. Sure it could. But how would it work in this game now? Because if you can't explain that, then your conjecture loses a lot of footing.


Also, Arcanist could be another name for a Scholarly-type model. Which is why you see the 'mortar board' It's just there to show off the New Class/Job for ARR.

[Bowen]

Since this topic has gotten out of hand, let's go through a couple of points for both sides to reorganize ourselves:

Bold = Fact or not being argued
Italicized = Being argued/Inaccurate
Scholar:
• Looks like FFXI Scholar's AF.
• The other characters in the foreground of the wallpaper are all jobs.
• It's possible that they're working on adding more classes/jobs.
• There was that one datamined image of text saying "Scholar Unlocked!"
• Conjurer and Thaumaturge use similar weapons, why can't Arcanist and Scholar?

Arcanist:
• Arcanist has already been confirmed to wield Grimoires/Books.
• It's at the other end of the wallpaper as the Summoner.
• Arcanists from Mealvaan's Gate have been referred to as scholars in the game before.
• Class-specific gear has been mentioned before.

Reply with more points and I'll add them.

[Fantasia]

Arcanist:
• Arcanist has already been confirmed to wield Grimoires/Books.
• It's at the other end of the wallpaper as the Summoner.
• Arcanists from Mealvaan's Gate have been referred to as scholars in the game before.
• Class-specific gear has been mentioned before.

Pro-SCH, could add that THM and CNJ both use wands/staves, so SCH weapon could be a Tome instead of a Grimoire