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    I was just joking about the scruples and drams lol. Doubt SE would go to that distance of measures. Then again, Ferne may read this and take it as a challenge...

    My concern about the onze as volume isn't that I believe it couldn't be done that way, it very well could. I just think the in-game evidence is tenuous at best right now. After all, they apparently didn't even alter pints to a new term. So make that question mark really really big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    Then again, Ferne may read this and take it as a challenge...
    LEVEQUEST OBJECTIVE: Alchemize a dram of holy water.


    "Um, is that like ... a 'gods dram'? Eh heh... heh...
    gods dram you all to hells!
    "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    I just think the in-game evidence is tenuous at best right now. After all, they apparently didn't even alter pints to a new term. So make that question mark really really big.
    That's the best way to sum it up until we hear it mentioned again. I just like musing.
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    I think it would depend on the context in which onze is being used. Fluid ounce is a measure of volume. A plain old ounce is a measure of weight. Letters sent through the post office in the US are measured in ounces. Something like Robitussin is measured in fluid ounces.

    Edit: Also after reading a bit on a wiki page about fluid ounces (just to make sure I wasn't giving an inaccurate statement about fl. oz being a volumetric measurement) pint is also something used in both the metric (imperial) and US measurement systems.

    A fluid ounce (abbreviated fl oz, fl. oz. or oz. fl., old forms ℥, fl ℥, f℥, ƒ ℥) is a unit of volume equal to 1⁄20 of a pint or 1⁄160 of a gallon in the imperial system or 1⁄16 of a pint or 1⁄128 of a gallon in the US system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    1. Can you really say the UK has totally switched over? Crazy brits buy fuel by the liter, but then drive in miles and calculate efficiency by miles per gallon.
    Not totally, but they're nearly there, and making progress. Food labeling is solely in metric. Any recipes published in the last 10? years. Oven temperatures and weather temps, too. Most recently was a law change forbidding butchers from selling things in lbs, caused a pretty big outcry, but it happened. The miles & miles per hour are the last on the list, apparently. EU countries (er, those that switched to Euros ) are all metric.

    In its defense, the US military and of course US scientists are all metric. (Military is even date format DD/MM/YYYY.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Most recently was a law change forbidding butchers from selling things in lbs, caused a pretty big outcry, but it happened.
    fyi, that didn't cause a pretty big outcry because it never happened.

    Dates and temperatures aren't imperial/metric. They're just different localisations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjollnir View Post
    fyi, that didn't cause a pretty big outcry because it never happened.
    Dates and temperatures aren't imperial/metric. They're just different localisations.
    Well it was all over the (UK) news at the time, and I personally witnessed butchers and customers making jokes and gripes about it.
    OK, maybe Celsius is only SI. Regardless, the US's continued use of Fahrenheit is contrary to the rest of the world and international standards, as is its use of MM/DD/YYYY. (Perhaps that date issue is more of a pet peeve of mine than anything.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Well it was all over the (UK) news at the time, and I personally witnessed butchers and customers making jokes and gripes about it.
    Weird. I'd not ever heard of it so I Googled and couldn't find anything either. Sounds like it might have been typical tabloid misinformation - I actively avoid that style of 'news'!

    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    OK, maybe Celsius is only SI. Regardless, the US's continued use of Fahrenheit is contrary to the rest of the world and international standards, as is its use of MM/DD/YYYY. (Perhaps that date issue is more of a pet peeve of mine than anything.)
    It defies logic! I wouldn't care except the US makes so much software that I use and then defaults to that layout, it peeves me too lol The spelling thing, I can deal with, but that date format? Why???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Not totally, but they're nearly there, and making progress. Food labeling is solely in metric. Any recipes published in the last 10? years. Oven temperatures and weather temps, too. Most recently was a law change forbidding butchers from selling things in lbs, caused a pretty big outcry, but it happened. The miles & miles per hour are the last on the list, apparently. EU countries (er, those that switched to Euros ) are all metric.

    In its defense, the US military and of course US scientists are all metric. (Military is even date format DD/MM/YYYY.)
    As an American scientist, I can confirm this. The American scientific community uses the metric system in their work. The commercial and normal citizen use mile/foot/inch sometimes centimeter if we're feeling gutsy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Well it was all over the (UK) news at the time, and I personally witnessed butchers and customers making jokes and gripes about it.
    OK, maybe Celsius is only SI. Regardless, the US's continued use of Fahrenheit is contrary to the rest of the world and international standards, as is its use of MM/DD/YYYY. (Perhaps that date issue is more of a pet peeve of mine than anything.)
    We (scientists) also use Celcius and Kelvin as well. But yes, most Americans use Fahrenheit. We're very stubborn =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myranda View Post
    1. Can you really say the UK has totally switched over? Crazy brits buy fuel by the liter, but then drive in miles and calculate efficiency by miles per gallon.l
    Don't forget beer by the pint, soft drinks by the liter, our own weight in stone and pounds, but the weight of sugar in kilos, ahh gotta love us Brits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Don't forget beer by the pint, soft drinks by the liter, our own weight in stone and pounds, but the weight of sugar in kilos, ahh gotta love us Brits.
    *litre. I smell a yankee spy!
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