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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I specifically said "better seller in Japan". What should be easy for you is reading what my post said.
    Good for you. But being the "better seller in Japan", for however long DWVII was, doesn't really mean squat. My point is, worldwide, FFVII was the better seller, and still IS today. AND it has a much stronger fanbase. AND it has reached cult status among fans. These are things DWVII has not accomplished. Therefore, remaking it is not as big a risk factor as remaking FFVII.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Ok, so since no one want a FFX remake, it's good to do one ?...that's against the simple law of "offer and demand"
    Offer oftentimes comes without demand. Especially in the game industry. A remake of FFX would probably go over well with people who play the game. But it has nowhere near received the demand of a remake of FFVII, if it even received demand at all. Like I said, offer sometimes comes without demand. At the same time, demand sometimes doesn't get an offer. Just because you want a company to do something doesn't mean it's in the best interest of the company to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    People wanted remakes of FFVII before SE thought about doing remakes ?! You mean remaking a 1997 game before FFIV was released on PSOne...in 1997, FF V...in 1998 and FF VI...in 1999 ?
    Oh god... (facepalm)

    Well, I am in fault here. After all, you can't read sarcasm on the internet, so yes, it did go over your head. Let me be more frank, then. Ahem:

    Customers have wanted a remake of FFVII for YEARS. It has been on forum after forum, wish list after wish list. However, SquareEnix knows full well that it is an unnecessary risk to take since

    1. The original in it's current form still sells well, and

    2. Messing with the original could bring a backlash that Squeenix can't recover from.

    That's why it likely won't happen. Ever. If it was going to, it would have been done by now. They've made remakes of other games, they won't remake FFVII. They are smart enough to not listen to you and countless other fans crying about this issue. The wishes of the fanboy/fangirl are not necessarily the best thing for the company. And this is a good example of that. You want to play FFVII? Here you go...

    http://us.playstation.com/games/fina...i-psp-ps3.html

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-...R40&_nkw=FFVII

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?...qid=1365465925

    You're welcome.

    P.S.: If you're waiting to play this:



    ...it's not going to happen. That was just a tech demo. It's time to move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Good for you. But being the "better seller in Japan", for however long DWVII was, doesn't really mean squat. My point is, worldwide, FFVII was the better seller, and still IS today. AND it has a much stronger fanbase. AND it has reached cult status among fans. These are things DWVII has not accomplished. Therefore, remaking it is not as big a risk factor as remaking FFVII.



    Offer oftentimes comes without demand. Especially in the game industry. A remake of FFX would probably go over well with people who play the game. But it has nowhere near received the demand of a remake of FFVII, if it even received demand at all. Like I said, offer sometimes comes without demand. At the same time, demand sometimes doesn't get an offer. Just because you want a company to do something doesn't mean it's in the best interest of the company to do it.



    Oh god... (facepalm)

    Well, I am in fault here. After all, you can't read sarcasm on the internet, so yes, it did go over your head. Let me be more frank, then. Ahem:

    Customers have wanted a remake of FFVII for YEARS. It has been on forum after forum, wish list after wish list. However, SquareEnix knows full well that it is an unnecessary risk to take since

    1. The original in it's current form still sells well, and

    2. Messing with the original could bring a backlash that Squeenix can't recover from.

    That's why it likely won't happen. Ever. If it was going to, it would have been done by now. They've made remakes of other games, they won't remake FFVII. They are smart enough to not listen to you and countless other fans crying about this issue. The wishes of the fanboy/fangirl are not necessarily the best thing for the company. And this is a good example of that. You want to play FFVII? Here you go...

    http://us.playstation.com/games/fina...i-psp-ps3.html

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-...R40&_nkw=FFVII

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=a9_sc_1?...qid=1365465925

    You're welcome.

    P.S.: If you're waiting to play this:



    ...it's not going to happen. That was just a tech demo. It's time to move on.

    sorry I hate to point this out but you do realize that anything besides the playstation network sale of FFVII or the pc download for the game make square enix absolutely no money at all right? Ebay they get shit and amazon they get shit ie anything sold on amazon now and ebay are preowned games and make no profit for se

    Especially since this is a post about the ins and outs on how it would be a big risk for se to MAKE money on a remake of of a game that a lot of people want... And you're telling him and others that if they want the game so bad to purchase it from someone preowned.... Anyone else see the irony in it?
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    Last edited by Rannie; 04-09-2013 at 11:36 AM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    sorry I hate to point this out but you do realize that anything besides the playstation network sale of FFVII or the pc download for the game make square enix absolutely no money at all right
    Besides this and that. You don't do economy with the besides.

    Especially since this is a post about the ins and outs on how it would be a big risk for se to MAKE money on a remake of of a game that a lot of people want... And you're telling him and others that if they want the game so bad to purchase it from someone preowned.... Anyone else see the irony in it?
    The only irony i see is in people that know nothing about business, game development or the industry, but still think they can teach people with decades of experience how to make money.

    Lots of irony there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Besides this and that. You don't do economy with the besides.



    The only irony i see is in people that know nothing about business, game development or the industry, but still think they can teach people with decades of experience how to make money.

    Lots of irony there.

    I was giving that person the only credit for posting 1 url to an actual place where se will make money off of it so yes besides those two places se doesn't get the money abriel. Se doesn't make money off of preowned games only the stores that sell them do. so yes my besides will stay put..

    Don't ya think that would include yourself as well?
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    I was giving that person the only credit for posting 1 url to an actual place where se will make money off of it so yes besides those two places se doesn't get the money abriel. Se doesn't make money off of preowned games only the stores that sell them do. so yes my besides will stay put..

    Don't ya think that would include yourself as well?
    Aside from the fact that I have quite a bit of experience around the industry and in the business world. I do not go around stating that I have the perfect recipe for SE (or any other corporation) to make money, nor that it would be "easy", as stated around this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Aside from the fact that I have quite a bit of experience around the industry and in the business world. I do not go around stating that I have the perfect recipe for SE (or any other corporation) to make money, nor that it would be "easy", as stated around this thread.

    alright then neither do i. I'll just keep believing in Yoshi-p and laugh at all the irony going around and the "risks" everyone is taking ~_^

    Edit: on another note and a thought I had. square enix is a company that is built on taking risks i mean they do put out video games. Not to mention the beginning of this whole franchise was one big sink or swim risk for the original development team when it first came out. If said risks weren't taken we wouldn't have these games or maybe even the company to begin with just saying this for some thing to think on.
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    Last edited by Rannie; 04-09-2013 at 12:52 PM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    sorry I hate to point this out but you do realize that anything besides the playstation network sale of FFVII or the pc download for the game make square enix absolutely no money at all right? Ebay they get shit and amazon they get shit ie anything sold on amazon now and ebay are preowned games and make no profit for se
    Wait wait, are you telling me that Squeenix, the people who own a huge chunk, if not the whole thing, of the Final Fantasy series, get no money from sales of their game on Playstation Online? Really? I would love to see the sources that say this, because I find it hard to believe. VERY hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Especially since this is a post about the ins and outs on how it would be a big risk for se to MAKE money on a remake of of a game that a lot of people want... And you're telling him and others that if they want the game so bad to purchase it from someone preowned.... Anyone else see the irony in it?
    Well, seeing as how they DO make money off of the game being purchased on PSN and on the PC... oh wait, they don't. You said so yourself. You must know so much about this stuff. Still, if you don't mind, can I see those sources please? Pretty please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Wait wait, are you telling me that Squeenix, the people who own a huge chunk, if nto the whole thing, of the Final Fantasy series, get no money from sales of their game on Playstation Online? Really? I would love to see the sources that say this, because I find it hard to believe. VERY hard.



    Well, seeing as how they DO make money off of the game being purchased on PSN and on the PC... oh wait, they don't. You said so yourself. You must know so much about this tuff. Still, if you don't mind, can I see those sources please? Pretty please?

    reread my post here I forgot the commas so i'll put it in even though with the wording i used I never said se DIDN'T make money off the psn download of it.
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    Last edited by Rannie; 04-09-2013 at 12:57 PM.
    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    reread my post
    Oh, you edited. Smart move. So yeah, they DO make money off of FFVII. And it's a lot less risky doing it this way and being guaranteed a buck than giving it a makeover and possibly bombing and screwing themselves badly. So... they should still remake this game because...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Oh, you edited. Smart move. So yeah, they DO make money off of FFVII. And it's a lot less risky doing it this way and being guaranteed a buck than giving it a makeover and possibly bombing and screwing themselves badly. So... they should still remake this game because...?
    I only edited it like an hour ago was going to edit it and put in commas but it doesn't need commas. Again what you copied and what is STILL there are what I said to begin with.

    Please don't even try me.
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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