What is this I don't even...

[ClausL]

actually, it is. there's a lot of revamps going on, but it's for sure an "evolution/update" of FFXIV

if you deny this fact, you're setting yourself up for disappointment, honestly.

[ispano]

actually, it is. there's a lot of revamps going on, but it's for sure an "evolution/update" of FFXIV

if you deny this fact, you're setting yourself up for disappointment, honestly.

So a completely rebuilt, as in entirely new code base, is an update. News to me.

[fusional]

So a completely rebuilt, as in entirely new code base, is an update. News to me.

and borrowing one idea which gw2 also borrowed from elsewhere... means the "entire system screams gw2." sure is convenient how that works.

but we're the fanboys/girls...

[ClausL]

the entire FATE system screams GW2 is what I meant.

[fusional]

the entire FATE system screams GW2 is what I meant.

which would be fine if gw2 actually invented it. yet...

[ClausL]

which would be fine if gw2 actually invented it. yet...

GW2 definitely has its own unique system. you can't look at any other games' area based questing and say that GW2 copied. other games have elements of GW2's, but not to the extent of FFXIV's FATE system.

and Abriael, it's still FFXIV. those are revamps. I'll be logging into the game in a few months with my same character, equipped with my same items, with the same equipment design, with the same class system, with many of the systems from FFXIV still in place. stop lying to yourself that this isn't FFXIV please. it's a massive update but it's still XIV.

the optimism around here is refreshing but a little bit overwhelming when even skepticism is looked down upon...I'm very much looking forward to XIV, but I am skeptical and I'm not going to trash one writer for not liking it.

[Abriael]

GW2 definitely has its own unique system. you can't look at any other games' area based questing and say that GW2 copied. other games have elements of GW2's, but not to the extent of FFXIV's FATE system.

GW2's system was inspired by Warhammer Online, exactly like FFXIV's. The only difference is that Yoshida is honest enough to admit it.

and Abriael, it's still FFXIV. those are revamps. I'll be logging into the game in a few months with my same character, equipped with my same items, with the same equipment, with the same class system, with many of the systems from FFXIV still in place. stop lying to yourself that this isn't FFXIV please. it's a massive update but it's still XIV.

You basically said that Mass Effect 2 is just a "revamp" of Mass Effect 1, and Mass Effect 3 is just a revamp of Mass Effect 2.

The ability to play with the same character does not the same game make.

It doesn't even run on the same engine.

the optimism around here is refreshing but a little bit overwhelming when even skepticism is looked down upon...I'm very much looking forward to XIV, but I am skeptical and I'm not going to trash one writer for not liking it.

We're not looking down upon "skepticism". "skepticism" is fine. There are plenty "skeptical" articles over the internet.

We're looking down upon factually false reporting, incompetence, mockery, disprespect and flamebait, and even more so the inability to take criticism as well as one dishes it.

[Abriael]

actually, it is. there's a lot of revamps going on, but it's for sure an "evolution/update" of FFXIV

if you deny this fact, you're setting yourself up for disappointment, honestly.

-New server technology and structure (Check)
-New engine (check)
-New mechanics (check)
-New UI (check)
-New assets (check)
-New effects (check)
-New Quests and Storylines (check)

It's not "a lot of revamps". It has all the elements of a new game. The only things that are left from the old game are the settings and a part of the assets, which is normal from sequels, not for revamps.

the entire FATE system screams GW2 is what I meant.

Whether it screams GW2 to you or not, we know that it's not been copied from GW2, as it's been inspired (as openly said by the developer) from another game from which GW2 took inspiration itself and it has been used in other games too.

So saying that it's "copied from GW2" is simply factually false. She didn't say that the system reminds her of GW2. She openly and literally accused the dev team of having copied it from GW2.

When you accuse someone of plagiarism, you better have all your facts straight. She didn't.