What is this I don't even...

[ClausL]

which would be fine if gw2 actually invented it. yet...

GW2 definitely has its own unique system. you can't look at any other games' area based questing and say that GW2 copied. other games have elements of GW2's, but not to the extent of FFXIV's FATE system.

and Abriael, it's still FFXIV. those are revamps. I'll be logging into the game in a few months with my same character, equipped with my same items, with the same equipment design, with the same class system, with many of the systems from FFXIV still in place. stop lying to yourself that this isn't FFXIV please. it's a massive update but it's still XIV.

the optimism around here is refreshing but a little bit overwhelming when even skepticism is looked down upon...I'm very much looking forward to XIV, but I am skeptical and I'm not going to trash one writer for not liking it.

[Abriael]

GW2 definitely has its own unique system. you can't look at any other games' area based questing and say that GW2 copied. other games have elements of GW2's, but not to the extent of FFXIV's FATE system.

GW2's system was inspired by Warhammer Online, exactly like FFXIV's. The only difference is that Yoshida is honest enough to admit it.

and Abriael, it's still FFXIV. those are revamps. I'll be logging into the game in a few months with my same character, equipped with my same items, with the same equipment, with the same class system, with many of the systems from FFXIV still in place. stop lying to yourself that this isn't FFXIV please. it's a massive update but it's still XIV.

You basically said that Mass Effect 2 is just a "revamp" of Mass Effect 1, and Mass Effect 3 is just a revamp of Mass Effect 2.

The ability to play with the same character does not the same game make.

It doesn't even run on the same engine.

the optimism around here is refreshing but a little bit overwhelming when even skepticism is looked down upon...I'm very much looking forward to XIV, but I am skeptical and I'm not going to trash one writer for not liking it.

We're not looking down upon "skepticism". "skepticism" is fine. There are plenty "skeptical" articles over the internet.

We're looking down upon factually false reporting, incompetence, mockery, disprespect and flamebait, and even more so the inability to take criticism as well as one dishes it.

[ClausL]

FFXIV:ARR is not a sequel.

"We're looking down upon factually false reporting, incompetence, mockery, disprespect and flamebait, and even more so the inability to take criticism as well as one dishes it."

Holy crap... you are like the definition of a rude, obnoxious fanboy. That writer went to an event and gave her impressions on the preview she played. you're the one being very disrespectful

[Abriael]

FFXIV:ARR is not a sequel.

Plot-wise it is rather obviously a sequel. For what everything else is concerned, it's an entirely new game. Technically and factually. As a matter of fact a a good percentage of sequels brings *less* new to the table than ARR does, as they use the same engine as the original game.

Holy crap... you are like the definition of a rude, obnoxious fanboy. That writer went to an event and gave her impressions on the preview she played. you're the one being very disrespectful

Again, you seem to think that a critic should be immune from criticism. Doesn't work like that, as much as it seems to enrage you.

[ClausL]

not saying you don't have the RIGHT to call her names ... just saying you are being very obnoxious in doing so

FFXIV:ARR is not a sequel because it's the same game updated. and honestly you are the one who seems really enraged here, so don't point that finger at me buddy. you are the one being really hostile and kind of (IMO) downright crazy

[ispano]

not saying you don't have the RIGHT to call her names ... just saying you are being very obnoxious in doing so

FFXIV:ARR is not a sequel because it's the same game updated. and honestly you are the one who seems really enraged here, so don't point that finger at me buddy. you are the one being really hostile and kind of (IMO) downright crazy

It's 5 years in the future, that's nowhere near the same game.

[Abriael]

not saying you don't have the RIGHT to call her names ... just saying you are being very obnoxious in doing so

Only, I'm not calling her names. I'm defining her article, rather factually, at it.

FFXIV:ARR is not a sequel because it's the same game updated. and honestly you are the one who seems really enraged here, so don't point that finger at me buddy. you are the one being really hostile and kind of (IMO) downright crazy

Says the one accusing someone else of "calling names"

The game is not being "updated". I'm not sure if you're aware of the idea of building a game from the ground up starting from a completely new engine and code.

That's what you define "making a new game", and that's a fact.

You can attack me on a personal level as much as you like, as it doesn't bother me in the slightest, but it doesn't make that less of a fact.

[ClausL]

@ispano it's still the same game... FFXI's story goes into the past, and it's still FFXI in the past. you're just talking about lore.

[ClausL]

Only, I'm not calling her names. I'm defining her article, rather factually, at it.



Says the one accusing someone else of "calling names"

The game is not being "updated". I'm not sure if you're aware of the idea of building a game from the ground up starting from a completely new engine and code.

That's what you define "making a new game", and that's a fact.

You can attack me on a personal level as much as you like, as it doesn't bother me in the slightest, but it doesn't make that less of a fact.

yeah well sorry but you are coming across as pretty fanboyish to me. I'm pretty sure FFXIV will still be taking place in the same areas, with the same characters and classes, same items, same data, and a lot of revamps, even if there's new coding, it's not a new game.

I have to wonder what creates a hostile & angry fanboy such as yourself... I have played every FF, and loved most of them, played FFXI for 5 years. preordered FFXIV, collectors edition... but from the sound of your attitude you would sacrifice your unborn child for Yoshi P. it's just a game.

one person doesnt like it, and youre frothing at the mouth.

I'm looking forward to FFXIV's ARR update but it doesn't look like it's doing much new compared to other MMORPGs. so I'm skeptical. the best part so far seems to be better optimization/frame rates for PCs..

[ispano]

Choosing to see things as you see fit, and taking words for different meanings than what they are, is not helping you.

It is a sequel. It is a new game. There are plenty of reasons why, you just choose to say "no they're not"