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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I'm not sure how comparing it to GW2 is weak journalism at all. the system screams GW2. I think not mentioning it would be weak journalism.
    Good journalists can make a point on a game's own strength's and weaknesses without needing the crutch of bringing forth other games. The system doesn't scream GW2. It's been inspired to another game that came a LOT before GW2 (Warhammer Online), and from which GW2 has taken inspiration as well.

    Stating that it's "copied from GW2" is simply factually false and disingenuous.

    and it's not unfair to compare them either. Guild Wars 2 is no more of a finished product than FFXIV. both were sold and will be updated over time. actually FFXIV was sold long before GW2. I'm not sure why you think 2.0 should be exempt from this kind of criticism.
    FFXIV: A realm reborn is a new game, and it didn't even start its beta yet (actually, it will today).

    I'm sure you have no problem with poorly written articles which portray ARR as amazing and totally ignore its flaws.
    I have problems with EVERY poorly written article. But I have a lot more problems with articles that blatantly disrespect and mock the work of development teams (of ANY game). There's a fine line between criticism and disrespect, and this article jumped well past it.
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    actually, it is. there's a lot of revamps going on, but it's for sure an "evolution/update" of FFXIV

    if you deny this fact, you're setting yourself up for disappointment, honestly.
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    do you seriously have any idea what happens any time i say anything remotely negative about GW2 anywhere else on the internet? but it's convenient how that stereotype only applies negatively to FFXIV players somehow when the argument suits you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    actually, it is. there's a lot of revamps going on, but it's for sure an "evolution/update" of FFXIV

    if you deny this fact, you're setting yourself up for disappointment, honestly.
    So a completely rebuilt, as in entirely new code base, is an update. News to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    do you seriously have any idea what happens any time i say anything remotely negative about GW2 anywhere else on the internet? but it's convenient how that stereotype only applies negatively to FFXIV players somehow when the argument suits you...
    No, what happens? i've written several places that GW2 is generic junk, and I bought it and got refunded.

    I've never encountered a GW2 fanboy anything like what you see from the Final Fantasy community really
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    So a completely rebuilt, as in entirely new code base, is an update. News to me.
    and borrowing one idea which gw2 also borrowed from elsewhere... means the "entire system screams gw2." sure is convenient how that works.

    but we're the fanboys/girls...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    I've never encountered a GW2 fanboy anything like what you see from the Final Fantasy community really
    denial is a funny thing

    this is but one quick example. you can find them anywhere. your argument from personal experience suggesting it isn't the case because you haven't seen it is completely fallacious... and again, convenient. as all your attempts at arguments are. quite convenient indeed.
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    the entire FATE system screams GW2 is what I meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    the entire FATE system screams GW2 is what I meant.
    which would be fine if gw2 actually invented it. yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    actually, it is. there's a lot of revamps going on, but it's for sure an "evolution/update" of FFXIV

    if you deny this fact, you're setting yourself up for disappointment, honestly.
    -New server technology and structure (Check)
    -New engine (check)
    -New mechanics (check)
    -New UI (check)
    -New assets (check)
    -New effects (check)
    -New Quests and Storylines (check)

    It's not "a lot of revamps". It has all the elements of a new game. The only things that are left from the old game are the settings and a part of the assets, which is normal from sequels, not for revamps.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClausL View Post
    the entire FATE system screams GW2 is what I meant.
    Whether it screams GW2 to you or not, we know that it's not been copied from GW2, as it's been inspired (as openly said by the developer) from another game from which GW2 took inspiration itself and it has been used in other games too.

    So saying that it's "copied from GW2" is simply factually false. She didn't say that the system reminds her of GW2. She openly and literally accused the dev team of having copied it from GW2.

    When you accuse someone of plagiarism, you better have all your facts straight. She didn't.
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