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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post

    To address the "going the opposite direction" part, I take 1.0 as the base, look at the crafting video of the direction they are heading from 1.0 to 2.0 (which is less of a hot and cold thing, more streamlined, easier to understand, able to get consistent repeatable results.), and then they say fishing is going in the opposite direction (this to me means it will be a better mini game, keeping the hot and cold mystery aspect, keeping things random, and less predictable.).
    If it is this, I give you a kissy :P

    As for when they said it would be just a hobby I figured it would be like most of the fish you can catch which are worth 5 gil anywhere. They really are useless and you just toss em out. You've got to have the right lure or you will be wasting a lot of your time fishing (in 1.0). Of course it could mean your way that the game is really fun so it becomes a hobby that way, you do it just to play it sometimes - even though the fish can be useful.

    Certainly we should wait more before we petition Yoshida lol (figured 1.0 forums we can talk about w.e we want though so :P, srry for the short derail - talk about chocobos man lol) - anyway just would not be happy to see a class be relegated to no class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    If it is this, I give you a kissy :P

    as for it being just a hobby I figured it would be like most of the fish you can catch which are worth 5 gil anywhere. They really are useless and you just toss em out. You've got to have the right lure or you will be wasting a lot of your time fishing.

    Certainly we should wait more before we petition Yoshida lol (figured 1.0 forums we can talk about w.e we want though so :P, srry for the short derail - talk about chocobos man lol) - anyway just would not be happy to see a class be relegated to no class.
    eeewww.... I'm actually a dude.... lol. Anyway, I just dont see them putting an item into a game as a straight up throw away item, they usualy have some purpose, however small. you might be able to cook the 5g fish with some garlic and moko grass and make it a 10g broiled fish that you can sell or eat for a small strength bonus. Later on you can use the smaller fish as bait for your boat trips to catch the larger fish. I just cant see putting a fish in your inventory just to sell it for the lowest price possible and thats it, thats why i brought up the fear of removing the actual catching of a fish.

    I just hope you can still catch monsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    eeewww.... I'm actually a dude.... lol. Anyway, I just dont see them putting an item into a game as a straight up throw away item, they usualy have some purpose, however small. you might be able to cook the 5g fish with some garlic and moko grass and make it a 10g broiled fish that you can sell or eat for a small strength bonus. Later on you can use the smaller fish as bait for your boat trips to catch the larger fish. I just cant see putting a fish in your inventory just to sell it for the lowest price possible and thats it, thats why i brought up the fear of removing the actual catching of a fish.

    I just hope you can still catch monsters.
    *looks wistfully down at the ground*

    But I can be whatever you want me to be... ... .. no no no lol

    Monster catching would be great, though I hope they make it in select zones (if possible on accident) or make it so its on purpose (particular baits) as otherwise it could be easy to get your face rolled because you weren't in a battle class when the monster popped and slapped you.

    I'd love to see boat trips as well. We've seen that they had boat plans (very early in FFXIV 1.0) so I'm sure that will come up again. I imagine the other gathers can have cool things like floating islands with special minerals, undersea caverns, and giant lifa trees.

    Though so you know why the fear was easy for me: When I was a fisher in 1.0 I would get 5 to 10 stacks of 10 gil fish and just sell them at the npc because they were a waste (I only got to 20 in the other gathering classes but I felt like they made more money - I was just bored of triangulating resources in a circle so I stuck with fisher). I'm actually ~500 away from luminary rod lol

    So it wasnt so hard for me to imagine "even more useless fish" and I got instant night terrors XD

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    MINE!! *Runs off with loot* hehehehehehe!
    ninja looter!!! (Though if we remember back Yoshida was talking about something like 3 100% drops at the end of a dungeon and then the losers get tokens - if you could run dungeons with a small group you'd really accelerate the process of getting loot.. though it would be like a challenge mode, dealing with weaker sometimes sillier allies (chocobos)).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    *looks wistfully down at the ground*

    But I can be whatever you want me to be... ... .. no no no lol

    Monster catching would be great, though I hope they make it in select zones (if possible on accident) or make it so its on purpose (particular baits) as otherwise it could be easy to get your face rolled because you weren't in a battle class when the monster popped and slapped you.

    I'd love to see boat trips as well. We've seen that they had boat plans (very early in FFXIV 1.0) so I'm sure that will come up again. I imagine the other gathers can have cool things like floating islands with special minerals, undersea caverns, and giant lifa trees.

    Though so you know why the fear was easy for me: When I was a fisher in 1.0 I would get 5 to 10 stacks of 10 gil fish and just sell them at the npc because they were a waste (I only got to 20 in the other gathering classes but I felt like they made more money - I was just bored of triangulating resources in a circle so I stuck with fisher). I'm actually ~500 away from luminary rod lol

    So it wasnt so hard for me to imagine "even more useless fish" and I got instant night terrors XD



    ninja looter!!! (Though if we remember back Yoshida was talking about something like 3 100% drops at the end of a dungeon and then the losers get tokens - if you could run dungeons with a small group you'd really accelerate the process of getting loot.. though it would be like a challenge mode, dealing with weaker sometimes sillier allies (chocobos)).
    Well, they maybe a Smart NPC and do the best move for the right time. Maybe they may put in like a Gambit type system where, You assign your Chocobo to do a certain thing based on conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I think this is good to cut some time finding players. You want an 8 man team? Well, Get 4 People with their Chocobos. This is actually a good system.
    Maybe the design philosophy has changed, but it was said a while back that you'd be able to form a light party with 2 people and 2 chocobos. Anything more than that and you'd be restricted to one chocobo per party. All subject to change of course.

    In terms of fishing, I seriously think something was lost in translation. Fishing should at the very least support cooking. I hope one of the Japanese interviews asked about fishing and we can get a better translation of it. (/poke Reinheart)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    In terms of fishing, I seriously think something was lost in translation. Fishing should at the very least support cooking. I hope one of the Japanese interviews asked about fishing and we can get a better translation of it. (/poke Reinheart)
    Fishing just went down hill for many people... who asked for a simpler system... orz orz orz orz orz orz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Fishing just went down hill for many people... who asked for a simpler system... orz orz orz orz orz orz
    Yeah, this is basically the worst possible route fishing could have gone. It's essentially gone from the game. "We don't like the old minigame" doesn't mean "We don't like minigames period" Yoshi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Well, they maybe a Smart NPC and do the best move for the right time. Maybe they may put in like a Gambit type system where, You assign your Chocobo to do a certain thing based on conditions.
    I read somewhere in the interview, that it would be like FFXII gambit system.

    I hope so, I really liked that system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanne View Post
    I read somewhere in the interview, that it would be like FFXII gambit system.

    I hope so, I really liked that system.
    It was originally so powerful that Yoshida was like "hey wait, you guys are making a bot" lol

    They had to weaken it. I'm curious where they decided to leave it at. Hopefully they gave us enough commands or at least complex commands to dictate behavior in situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    fishing is the new grass
    Only if you have association skills of 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Only if you have association skills of 0.
    doesn't take association skills much higher than 0 to see you coming up with a new topic to overreact to every time there's a new update, chief. QQ?

    (but at least now you can put your grass settings on High and shut up)
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