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    That image isn't even really applicable for this debate. You're comparing a video screenshot that requires better hardware to render in real time than you could ever afford, versus the graphics in the game that are generated from textures. They are two completely different techniques. You can't just say we'll use this FMV grass for ARR. They're completely different assets.

    Yea, I guess they could make the grass look better. Honestly though, grass is the last thing I care about. If you really are that worried about Grass, maybe you should play a game like Flower.... I understand that you are just wanting a greater visual experience for everyone, but if you're walking around staring at the grass all day, I'm not sure this is the right game for you... That's just my opinion though. I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy it, but the amount of time I'd enjoy it is probably about 20 minutes out of the 525949 minutes in a year. I don't know about you, but I don't exactly watch the ground while I'm running around doing stuff or crafting in one position. I'll only see the ground as a peripheral view, so I won't see the jagged edges.

    Besides, after FFXI for over 5 years, jagged grass is the least of my worries. In fact, it isn't one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiyoKatsui View Post
    That image isn't even really applicable for this debate. You're comparing a video screenshot that requires better hardware to render in real time than you could ever afford, versus the graphics in the game that are generated from textures. They are two completely different techniques. You can't just say we'll use this FMV grass for ARR. They're completely different assets.

    Yea, I guess they could make the grass look better. Honestly though, grass is the last thing I care about. If you really are that worried about Grass, maybe you should play a game like Flower.... I understand that you are just wanting a greater visual experience for everyone, but if you're walking around staring at the grass all day, I'm not sure this is the right game for you... That's just my opinion though. I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy it, but the amount of time I'd enjoy it is probably about 20 minutes out of the 525949 minutes in a year. I don't know about you, but I don't exactly watch the ground while I'm running around doing stuff or crafting in one position. I'll only see the ground as a peripheral view, so I won't see the jagged edges.

    Besides, after FFXI for over 5 years, jagged grass is the least of my worries. In fact, it isn't one.
    Linkurrra, and I both said it was a rendered piece. Obviously games dont look like a prerendered piece, so I'm not sure who you are trying to address with that first paragraph. (Edit: I've made it even clearer now)

    I look at the environment 24/7 and at least every 10 minutes of an hour while being around grass in FFXIV I was like "that is really bad grass"..

    So I guess yeah we are different that way, and lol to FFXI reference.

    If I recall I liked sarutabaruta's grass more then FFXIV's. Though FFXI used much less of it - and it ate taru taru's whole. I'm thinking of that place next to the tree you find the moon tear? or stone.. its been a while. I remember there being much smaller grass too but.. meh its been a while.
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    You won't have time to spend starrign at grass. Hand me a lawn mower and I will remedy the debate.

    You are more likely to go "damn they use a lot of shadowing"
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazaran View Post
    You won't have time to spend starrign at grass. Hand me a lawn mower and I will remedy the debate.

    You are more likely to go "damn they use a lot of shadowing"
    lol pack of lala's and hand sheers clean Eorzea of its grass, weavers everywhere doomed.

    They do have a lot of shadowing.. But its pretty cool how accurate and smooth they've got it going. I'm interested to see the lighting tweaks as they come. I hope they implement some sort of fog / colored lighting to match their concept art.. at least as an occasional weather effect.
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    Speaking of grass. They should make an Island with a giant palm tree the size of the tree in Windy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetsu View Post
    Speaking of grass. They should make an Island with a giant palm tree the size of the tree in Windy.
    The heavens tower?

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    Let me get this straight.. You are comparing this...


    (1.0 Gridania.. Grass looks to me like it has been steamrolled.)

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    to this?


    (ARR)

    Pfft, grass effects in 1.0 were a lot less interesting then the released screenshots / videos of alpha..

    It has improved 10 fold to 1.0, and that is what you should be comparing it against.
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    wait this is serious thing? people really care about grass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiyoKatsui View Post
    Yea, I guess they could make the grass look better. Honestly though, grass is the last thing I care about. If you really are that worried about Grass, maybe you should play a game like Flower.... I understand that you are just wanting a greater visual experience for everyone, but if you're walking around staring at the grass all day, I'm not sure this is the right game for you... That's just my opinion though. I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy it, but the amount of time I'd enjoy it is probably about 20 minutes out of the 525949 minutes in a year. I don't know about you, but I don't exactly watch the ground while I'm running around doing stuff or crafting in one position. I'll only see the ground as a peripheral view, so I won't see the jagged edges.

    Besides, after FFXI for over 5 years, jagged grass is the least of my worries. In fact, it isn't one.
    Uhm so what are you looking at when doing random stuff? miq ears/ass?
    There's really no reason not to look at the environment, when running from one place to another.
    And obviously the reason you're not looking at the grass, is cause it's ugly if it was beautiful, you'd also look at i more often; So why are you complaining about something that would make the game look better?
    And i can turn your argument against you and say, if you like crafting, maybe games isn't for you, maybe you should become a designer in real life instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radacci View Post
    So why are you complaining about something that would make the game look better?
    I don't really think people are "complaining" about devs "adding better grass textures". They are laughing at the people that are indeed, complaining about poor grass when it is perfectly fine, along with other aspects that could better utilise the resources that "improving the grass" would consume.
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