Necromancer: Discussion of the dead

[Hanemakikaze]

I would ask that you please not misquote me. I was sating that the intentions of the primals are the intentions of the user who summoned it.

Also I should have made myself more clear. Right from the Final Fantasy Wiki (Source) disambiguation page:


Necromancer may refer to:

• A Job from Final Fantasy V Advance.
• An enemy from Final Fantasy V.
• An enemy from Final Fantasy VI.
• A summoner type enemy from Final Fantasy XI.
• The Job from Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade.
• An enemy from Chocobo's Dungeon 2.

Generally it is an enemy job. How can you refute that fact?

By that logic summoner wouldn't fit into the game either, how many enemies used summons throughout FF to destroy the world(or try to) or use them against you(aka your enemy)? Necromancer fits just as much as any other class, more so in this game than most others.

[Duuude007]

By that logic summoner wouldn't fit into the game either, how many enemies used summons throughout FF to destroy the world(or try to) or use them against you(aka your enemy)? Necromancer fits just as much as any other class, more so in this game than most others.

Players could use summon (or call) in FF 4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12, and 13. Your counter argument is way off base.

[Hanemakikaze]

Players could use summon (or call) in FF 4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12, and 13. Your counter argument is way off base.

What argument are you talking about exactly? Because I don't see one. I pointed out how silly that logic is, when in almost every game they are on both sides. The fact that people choose to limit themselves to generic typical classes that are reused in every game but grab a pitch fork when one of the less used ones come up for discussion is...I just find it hilarious.

And from what I read, peoples only "argument" against it is that they think it doesn't fit when they already play thm, and ask for dark knight which is by no means that far from necromancer. People on these forums are just silly as hell, is what I was saying. There is my so called counter argument I suppose.

[KoujiGeki]

Players could use summon (or call) in FF 4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 11, 12, and 13. Your counter argument is way off base.

Well what they might be getting at is Summoner is not a defined class it can be both good and Evil, most lore to Necromancy itself which most people dont know is it stemmed from people wanting to bring back loved ones. The idea itself is a noble idea but most ignorant people only see it as evil. Absolutley anything can be used as a weapon, Necromancy just happens to have more evil users than good, the promise of Lichdom being a main cause of that.

And others games and lore allow necromancy to be practiced to keep it in line and in check, Like oblivion for example the second they banned necromancy in that world the practice of it became increased rather than smaller. You draw attention to things like at banning them and make people wonder why it was banned, next thing you know they are trying out necromancy.Or once again like Uldah to protect their city they raised the dead to prevent the citizens from dying.

Someone please answer this question. Why is it evil to protect lives by using dead peoples bodies as weapons to protect? The bodies are empty no souls nothing they are dead, rather than sacrifice young women and men who have the rest of their lives ahead of them.

Say your dying and i happen to be a "good" necromancer passing by if i could drain the life out of a tree or an animal,and give it to you to live am i evil? The tree or animal rots away i have disrupted nature to save your life you view me as evil?

Your child or loved one is dying from a disease. A necromancer is the master of life and death, disease and poisons. I could take the poison or disease killing them and plant in into a common house rat, killing it instead. Is it evil?

[Duuude007]

Your child or loved one is dying from a disease. A necromancer is the master of life and death, disease and poisons. I could take the poison or disease killing them and plant in into a common house rat, killing it instead. Is it evil?

Are we talking about FFXIV still, or the movie Green Mile?

[KoujiGeki]

Are we talking about FFXIV still, or the movie Green Mile?

Actually i havent seen the movie. /ashamed. But I am talking about people just saying, "nope it cant be dont nope nope nope." with no ways of backing it up. And i get little angry of it when people say there's no story to add it, when there is. The say it does fit in FF, when in fact its already there and does.

The funniest part is SE has everything they need to make necromancer with just the spells they took away in 1.0, minus all they have to do is add a summon undead line spell that ALL the need. Poison and Bio, Shadowsear or whatever it was called, Sacrifice, Drain, osmose. All those can be added to the Necros spell list you can leave the absorb spells and other dots to the other job. Literally The ONLY EFFORT SE need to use is making a new Pet line of Undead thats it the rest is All there.