ARR and Mac

[Eekiki]

I was reseating the keyboard on the lenovo t61:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Od48R4XxlU

and replacing the dvd drive on the macbook:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l151W_girY

And cleaning out the dust in both machines.

The lenovo had 3~4 different types and length of screws. A 2~3 more pieces to take a part from different angles. The macbook was pretty intuitive to take apart and put back together so it was pretty quick. The lenovo... I accidentally screwed a screw through keyboard membrane while putting it back together because I accidentally picked up the wrong length of screw....

A Macbook from 2008 is a lot different from a Macbook today. So you were taking apart a Macbook from when they actually were designed well.

[Laume]

A Macbook from 2008 is a lot different from a Macbook today. So you were taking apart a Macbook from when they actually were designed well.

Yes, but my statement still holds true. Thus your declaration of shenanigans is unjust and you can't get your broomstick.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clip...81/shenanigans

Now, I declare shenanigans that macbooks are 20% epoxy. I demand component ratios of a recent macbook air to prove your point! XD

[Eekiki]

Yes, but my statement still holds true. Thus your declaration of shenanigans is unjust and you can't get your broomstick.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clip...81/shenanigans

Now, I declare shenanigans that macbooks are 20% epoxy. I demand component ratios of a recent macbook air to prove your point! XD

The correct statement, then, is that Macbooks were well-designed, which is quite true.

Source:

"The new MacBook Pro is virtually non-upgradeable -- making it the first MacBook Pro that will be unable to adapt to future advances in memory and storage technology," said Wiens.

The teardown revealed that Apple used many of the same assembly techniques as it does with the self-contained and virtually un-upgradeable MacBook Air, including proprietary screws, copious amounts of glue, expensive parts -- the screen in particular -- that must be completely replaced even after the smallest failure, and fused components that will likely break when a neighboring part must be removed.

Not to mention that on the newest Macbook Pro, they've removed the ethernet port. If you're a person that wants to use ethernet (like, say, everyone in the world) you need to pay an additional $25 for an adapter on top of the already ridiculous price, because Apple thinks they can make Thunderbolt a standard technology by forcing Mac owners to use it. After all, it worked with Firewire, right?

Oh, wait...no it didn't.

I'm not saying Macs are terrible. I'm only saying they are at best as good as comparable non-Apple branded hardware, and freakishly overpriced.

Plus, Apple has become an obnoxiously litigious company. They can't innovate anymore without Steve Jobs, so they're doing all they can to stymie other companies' attempts to move technology forward.

[Laume]

The correct statement, then, is that Macbooks were well-designed, which is quite true.

Source:


Not to mention that on the newest Macbook Pro, they've removed the ethernet port. If you're a person that wants to use ethernet (like, say, everyone in the world) you need to pay an additional $25 for an adapter on top of the already ridiculous price, because Apple thinks they can make Thunderbolt a standard technology by forcing Mac owners to use it. After all, it worked with Firewire, right?

Oh, wait...no it didn't.

I'm not saying Macs are terrible. I'm only saying they are at best as good as comparable non-Apple branded hardware, and freakishly overpriced.

Plus, Apple has become an obnoxiously litigious company. They can't innovate anymore without Steve Jobs, so they're doing all they can to stymie other companies' attempts to move technology forward.

Not good enough. I demand numbers! XD It has to be the claimed 20% ratio of glue to computer parts! And you were calling shenanigans on my statement that

I had to open up a lenovo laptop and a macbook on the same day. One was definitely easier to open and put back together than the other.

I've proven that, yes, a macbook is easier to open and put back together than a lenovo! XD I demand proof or my declaration of shenanigans is just!

[Delsus]

Not good enough. I demand numbers! XD It has to be the claimed 20% ratio of glue to computer parts! And you were calling shenanigans on my statement that


I've proven that, yes, a macbook is easier to open and put back together than a lenovo! XD I demand proof or my declaration of shenanigans is just!

Someone is sounding like a fanboy to me, he once opened a 5 year old Macbook and claims his thoughts are true now, I will tell you Apple like to take all open technology out of their devices, to force it on people who own anything Apple for no reason but to sell you more things, the lighning port in the iPhone 5, sweet you hundreds of dollars worth of accessories are useless you have to buy them again, is there really anything wrong with microUSB you know that industry standard technology? It's Apple's way or the highway as far as they are concerned.

What I find funny is that we all live in a free world, (with reasonable restrictions) but people will let companies like Apple hold them back, you are not allowed to do something as stupid as upgrade a HDD, the pre-installed one will be fine, what change the theme of an OS??? That is stupid who would want to personalise something? I won't even get started on Apple's ideals of "If anyone makes something we will patent it, then sue them for using it."

Imagine if Steve Jobs (now Tim Cook) was president of the US "What you want to paint the interior walls of your iHouse, Life in prison for not doing what we say"

[Laume]

Someone is sounding like a fanboy to me, he once opened a 5 year old Macbook and claims his thoughts are true now, I will tell you Apple like to take all open technology out of their devices, to force it on people who own anything Apple for no reason but to sell you more things, the lighning port in the iPhone 5, sweet you hundreds of dollars worth of accessories are useless you have to buy them again, is there really anything wrong with microUSB you know that industry standard technology? It's Apple's way or the highway as far as they are concerned.

What I find funny is that we all live in a free world, (with reasonable restrictions) but people will let companies like Apple hold them back, you are not allowed to do something as stupid as upgrade a HDD, the pre-installed one will be fine, what change the theme of an OS??? That is stupid who would want to personalise something? I won't even get started on Apple's ideals of "If anyone makes something we will patent it, then sue them for using it."

Imagine if Steve Jobs (now Tim Cook) was president of the US "What you want to paint the interior walls of your iHouse, Life in prison for not doing what we say"

TLDR. Just wanted to justify. I have more debian machines than I do mac machines. The ratio is 4:1 (well, 5 if you count the machine that needs a new mother board. I don't care for steve jobs. Conversely, Richard Stallman is my hero (google him if you don't know who he is). And most mac users don't know awk. So if you had bother to read my previous posts, you would have known that. But since you didn't read mine, I'm not reading your's either. See ya!

[Vanguard319]

Someone is sounding like a fanboy to me, he once opened a 5 year old Macbook and claims his thoughts are true now, I will tell you Apple like to take all open technology out of their devices, to force it on people who own anything Apple for no reason but to sell you more things, the lighning port in the iPhone 5, sweet you hundreds of dollars worth of accessories are useless you have to buy them again, is there really anything wrong with microUSB you know that industry standard technology? It's Apple's way or the highway as far as they are concerned.

What I find funny is that we all live in a free world, (with reasonable restrictions) but people will let companies like Apple hold them back, you are not allowed to do something as stupid as upgrade a HDD, the pre-installed one will be fine, what change the theme of an OS??? That is stupid who would want to personalise something? I won't even get started on Apple's ideals of "If anyone makes something we will patent it, then sue them for using it."

Imagine if Steve Jobs (now Tim Cook) was president of the US "What you want to paint the interior walls of your iHouse, Life in prison for not doing what we say"

I don't like the way Apple does things myself. I used to own an iPhone about a year ago, and I had problems with the ipod app losing album art and info, I couldn't recover the art or info on iTunes, despite having bought the albums from the iTunes store. Then the phone crapped out one day without any explanation, it simply wouldn't read the SIM card for a few hours, and I had no internet connection when it started working again. I took it to my phone provider, they suggested I take it to the local Apple store, I take it to the Apple store, and after explaining what happened, was told the antenna had probably failed, (explains the network issues, but not why my playlists were losing data) they then said I could schedule a repair session that would cost more than I originally paid for the phone itself. I left without saying another word, went back to my phone provider, and since I had an upgrade available, I switched to a Windows phone. (Nokia Lumia 900) Haven't had any problems and haven't looked back since.

Even though I learned creative suite on Macs, after all the trouble and problems I had with my old iPhone, I would never willingly own another Apple product by choice.

[Altena]

iPhone issues etc

Even though I learned creative suite on Macs, after all the trouble and problems I had with my old iPhone, I would never willingly own another Apple product by choice.

It's a shame that a glitchy lemon has changed your opinion of a fairly solid product overall. I have had 2 iPhones (3G and 4S). The only reason I upgraded to the 4S was simply because of some small features that I wanted. Neither of my phones have given me any issues (aside from the odd firmware glitch which was later solved with a small patch a few months later).

As far as my iMac is concerned, I have never had an issue with my iMac (which is now being used as a display for my gaming Hackintosh), and is still in perfect working order after 4 years. I once again only upgraded my system as the hardware was starting to become obsolete.

This whole Mac vs. everythingelse war all comes down to what you use your system for. Each OS has its positives and negatives.

In terms of problems / issues, I have had far more software issues on Windows than I have had on Mac, but Mac does miss some of the compatibility.

In terms of Hardware, it is once again down to a compatibility issue - but still very viable to run a powerful Mac OS using "PC" parts. It just involves a little more research and initial tweaking.

Hackintosh = best of all worlds.
Want to play games? boot in Windows
Want to use the Mac applications, boot in Mac OS.
Still want Linux? No problem there also..

[Altena]

I've proven that, yes, a macbook is easier to open and put back together than a lenovo! XD I demand proof or my declaration of shenanigans is just!

Only true for the standard MacBook Pro (non retina display).

I would find the ifixit.com teardown but I am too lazy.

[Laume]

Only true for the standard MacBook Pro (non retina display).

I would find the ifixit.com teardown but I am too lazy.

My declaration for shenanigans is just so far! Whoo! I'm gonna go get my broom.