Please no items binding to players....

[fusional]

Making rare items easy to get makes them not so rare. Whats the point of having easy drops for everyone? just go play another mainstream mmo for that.

...says the guy who didn't run AV 400+ times for a corselet

[Siegtaru]

...says the guy who didn't run AV 400+ times for a corselet

Inb4 "I ran AV 1000+ times and never saw a DL Body, and I know complete idiots who ran it once and got a Corselet for their BRD"

[fusional]

Inb4 "I ran AV 1000+ times and never saw a DL Body, and I know complete idiots who ran it once and got a Corselet for their BRD"

but that's exactly the problem with luck. a rare item isn't really rare when you can spam content and cross your fingers that the 1% drop rate will eventually favor you. because the content is spammable, plenty of people eventually get it anyway. a rare item is truly rare when it's legitimately difficult to acquire regardless of drop rate. ie: white ravens (guaranteed reward)

but either way my point is that, while not always- more often than not the people who seem to be beating their chests about low drop rates and item rarity are the ones who were never adversely affected by it (either because they got super lucky or they never actually cleared the content in the first place)

[Bita]

but that's exactly the problem with luck. a rare item isn't really rare when you can spam content and cross your fingers that the 1% drop rate will eventually favor you. because the content is spammable, plenty of people eventually get it anyway. a rare item is truly rare when it's legitimately difficult to acquire regardless of drop rate. ie: white ravens (guaranteed reward)

but either way my point is that, while not always- more often than not the people who seem to be beating their chests about low drop rates and item rarity are the ones who were never adversely affected by it (either because they got super lucky or they never actually cleared the content in the first place)

get over the one item that has 1% drop rate and go for something else. No one agreed that some items should be as low as 1%. The fun of it is that not every one can get certain items. Do you want everyone to have the same gear like wow?. If you can't stand playing without one rare item then maybe you deserve to run a dungeon or farm an NM 1000+ times.

[fusional]

The fun of it is that not every one can get certain items

like what, white ravens? which were a guaranteed reward? and yet ~5% of the population got them? you only help solidify my point.

Do you want everyone to have the same gear like wow?

or like FFXI? or tera? or EQ2? or GW2? or any other MMO still running their servers today? why the hell did you even bring up wow in the first place? do you realize how incredibly stupid it makes you look? why do you people always do this? OH BUT WOW, WOW, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER WOWWWWWWWWW

nevermind all the other games which use the same system, INVENTED the system wow borrows from, or simply shares THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM. because, you know. in a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME people are bound to get THE EXACT SAME GEAR as long as the selection of gear is finite. and even when the selection is larger- people will STILL prefer the BEST stuff... so people end up wearing the same damn gear anyway.

have you ever even PLAYED a fucking mmo? did you hide under a rock the entire time?

but since you bring it up, let's talk about it. how much did you play WoW, and when? what is your opinion based on? did you raid? if you did raid, were you part of the top 10% of guilds who actually had heroic tier sets? i'm going to assume with 99% certainty the answer is no. so if you DID play, that would make you one of the 90% outside that circle.

and you know why that's funny? because heroic gear, in spite of having really high drop rates... WAS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO GET. so your argument is starting to look more and more idiotic as we progress. should we continue?

If you can't stand playing without one rare item then maybe you deserve to run a dungeon or farm an NM 1000+ times.

so what in the actual christ are you saying here? i want to be sure i understand your argument. are you saying that people who want a rare item deserves to be punished as a result of wanting that rare item? and you're saying the way they should be punished is through spamming content thousands of times, rather than actually EARNING the item through difficult content?

and i mean, what else could you mean? i have corselet and every other piece of darklight outside of heavy body. none of that was hard to get, it was just luck. and i had white ravens, too. they actually took skill to get. how about you? no white ravens? never ran av/cc? never did garuda? beat ifrit like a day before servers went down?

see, here's the thing. that's fine. it's fine you played casually and didn't clear most content. it's not a black mark against you for playing at your pace.

no, the black mark against you is that, in playing at your own pace, you didn't experience the content and the downfalls of the content which you're attempting to argue about as if you're an expert character witness. the black mark against you is beating your chest about shit you haven't the faintest understanding of.

and why do you do it? well i believe your guilty conscience showed itself readily enough. you do it because... WoW. because by god in spite of not knowing what the fuck you're talking about you NEED people to know that WoW sucks and anything that can make this game different surely is preferred.

except you don't know what you're talking about re: WoW, either, and in absolutely no reasonable context can you compare it to other popular modern MMOs without looking completely stupid/wrong.

so in essence you're just here to flail around and throw more anti-WoW feces at a thread which could otherwise be perfectly constructive. and this literally JUST HAPPENED in another thread, too.

at this point i don't even care if i get a mod time-out. it just has to be asked.

what the *fuck* is wrong with you people? if reference to a game you never really experienced and really know nothing about causes you this much psychological distress, instead of shitting all over these threads you need to see a goddam shrink about it.

[HamHam]

like what, white ravens? which were a guaranteed reward? and yet ~5% of the population got them? you only help solidify my point.



or like FFXI? or tera? or EQ2? or GW2? or any other MMO still running their servers today? why the hell did you even bring up wow in the first place? do you realize how incredibly stupid it makes you look? why do you people always do this? OH BUT WOW, WOW, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER WOWWWWWWWWW

nevermind all the other games which use the same system, INVENTED the system wow borrows from, or simply shares THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM. because, you know. in a MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE GAME people are bound to get THE EXACT SAME GEAR as long as the selection of gear is finite. and even when the selection is larger- people will STILL prefer the BEST stuff... so people end up wearing the same damn gear anyway.

have you ever even PLAYED a fucking mmo? did you hide under a rock the entire time?

but since you bring it up, let's talk about it. how much did you play WoW, and when? what is your opinion based on? did you raid? if you did raid, were you part of the top 10% of guilds who actually had heroic tier sets? i'm going to assume with 99% certainty the answer is no. so if you DID play, that would make you one of the 90% outside that circle.

and you know why that's funny? because heroic gear, in spite of having really high drop rates... WAS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO GET. so your argument is starting to look more and more idiotic as we progress. should we continue?



so what in the actual christ are you saying here? i want to be sure i understand your argument. are you saying that people who want a rare item deserves to be punished as a result of wanting that rare item? and you're saying the way they should be punished is through spamming content thousands of times, rather than actually EARNING the item through difficult content?

and i mean, what else could you mean? i have corselet and every other piece of darklight outside of heavy body. none of that was hard to get, it was just luck. and i had white ravens, too. they actually took skill to get. how about you? no white ravens? never ran av/cc? never did garuda? beat ifrit like a day before servers went down?

see, here's the thing. that's fine. it's fine you played casually and didn't clear most content. it's not a black mark against you for playing at your pace.

no, the black mark against you is that, in playing at your own pace, you didn't experience the content and the downfalls of the content which you're attempting to argue about as if you're an expert character witness. the black mark against you is beating your chest about shit you haven't the faintest understanding of.

and why do you do it? well i believe your guilty conscience showed itself readily enough. you do it because... WoW. because by god in spite of not knowing what the fuck you're talking about you NEED people to know that WoW sucks and anything that can make this game different surely is preferred.

except you don't know what you're talking about re: WoW, either, and in absolutely no reasonable context can you compare it to other popular modern MMOs without looking completely stupid/wrong.

so in essence you're just here to flail around and throw more anti-WoW feces at a thread which could otherwise be perfectly constructive. and this literally JUST HAPPENED in another thread, too.

at this point i don't even care if i get a mod time-out. it just has to be asked.

what the *fuck* is wrong with you people? if reference to a game you never really experienced and really know nothing about causes you this much psychological distress, instead of shitting all over these threads you need to see a goddam shrink about it.

This guy needs to work for Blizzard or probably works for them. "What that you said about WoW?" Oh no you didn't... OMGWTF NOOOOO, WoW is my God!!! How dare you say anything about my God!!! I'm going to punch you in the face!!!

[fusional]

This guy needs to work for Blizzard or probably works for them. "What that you said about WoW?" Oh no you didn't... OMGWTF NOOOOO, WoW is my God!!! How dare you say anything about my God!!! I'm going to punch you in the face!!!

if that's how you perceived my post, it isn't my problem. rather it makes you part of the problem.

in the meantime you can continue assuming i work for blizzard and worship the game while i continue leading the charge in FFXIV content. but, you know- because i'm as objective as possible about other games and don't flail about with ridiculous fanboy bias, you're going to draw whatever conclusions you want to support your twisted version of reality.

pretty silly.

[Linkurrra]

...says the guy who didn't run AV 400+ times for a corselet

You know the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result right?

People try to hard to get these rare items, just play the game and enjoy it and be excited when something cool comes your way! People take their games to seriously!

[Reika]

You know the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result right?

People try to hard to get these rare items, just play the game and enjoy it and be excited when something cool comes your way! People take their games to seriously!

Yea.. I ran AV probably less than 20 times, then decided it was much better to go for the gatherer hats and militia trousers (got all but 1 hat and no trousers )

Even running Hamlets over and over was mind numbingly boring. I'm hopin that those militia trousers (if they even still exsist in arr) are on a 30% drop rate rather than a .3% drop rate lol.

Still glad they are going the spamless content route, so can expect not to have to run it 100 times for one thing.

[fusional]

You know the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result right?

People try to hard to get these rare items, just play the game and enjoy it and be excited when something cool comes your way! People take their games to seriously!

i agree, it was insane and i got pretty tired of it after a while. the problem at the time was there just wasn't anything else to do in the game. and so we'd grind av/cc for gear until the next content patch.

as far as taking games too seriously, you have to acknowledge that not everyone plays casually. people play for different reasons, pursuing different goals. for some people (like my LS) enjoyment of the game comes from a struggle to be the best. we don't really expect everyone else to share that feeling, but we find it strange when people tell us what we enjoy from the game is wrong and argue that the game shouldn't have content for us.