Necromancer: Discussion of the dead

[Andrien]

Uhm, necro as a party-support-healer class seems very odd to me.
I don't think anyone but a madman would deal with necromancy, to heal people; you might as well just become a CNJ and heal people; But i suppose it's a regional thing, since Ul'dah/Limsa don't really have CNJ.
I'm pretty sure most people would find it repulsive for someone to dig up a corpse, blow it up, and heal you with necrotic energy. Would feel like having diseased corpse worms crawling around inside you, repairing your tissue with their saliva; you wouldn't be much of a welcome addition in any party...

Were you around when THM had Sacrifice, and Resurrect? Isn't CNJ Raise the same thing like bringing someone dead back to life? The THM story has them digging up corpses and stealing from them, and back then THM was considered the preferred class of choice for healing before the reformation.

Who knows what will happen in ARR, and when/how those abilities will be reintroduce.

there is so much potential. There is a lot of spells unused on the THM list that fits perfectly with the necromancer lore behind it.

[Radacci]

Were you around when THM had Sacrifice, and Resurrect? Isn't CNJ Raise the same thing like bringing someone dead back to life? The THM story has them digging up corpses and stealing from them, and back then THM was considered the preferred class of choice for healing before the reformation.

Who knows what will happen in ARR, and when/how those abilities will be reintroduce.

I was playing in 1.0 beta. but didn't play THM then.
Sure, but would you rather be resurrected by blowing up a corpse, or holy magic? And i wouldn't mind if Raise was WHM spell rather than CNJ. Reviving people from the dead is supposed to be impossible, if i remember THM quest.
I look at it like, you don't actually *die* in-game, you just become incapacitated. Someone can be theoretically dead, but you can bring them back with surgery, and defibrillator; Raise is just a way to bring back someone who is close to dying. Lorewise there's no way to bring back the dead, short of necromancy, bringing people back as zombies. Otherwise it would be pretty convenient for CNJ to just revive all heroes, if they died from Bahamut.

I don't remember the details of THM quests, but i think it was just that Lal female that was crazy, and the THM guild didn't approve, and would have delt with her themselves, if we hadn't; so the graverobbing wasn't really a THM thing, just a crazy ass greedy Lal who thought she was doing people a service, by killing them; and making some personal profit from it.

There's a difference between *guiding the dead* to the afterlife, and defiling corpses; using them as tools. Most religions use some form of guiding the dead to the afterlife: that doesn't mean it has anything to do with necromancy, or healing. Though i guess you could see THM as some kind of shadow priests, that can heal also.
But there was 2 versions of THM in 1.0, and we'll see what happens in ARR, what we can make of it then
THM healing to some extent might make sense, but having some creepy necro as party healer would be a no-no. Realistically speaking everyone would be repulsed by it, except other necros i guess.

[Reika]

I was playing in 1.0 beta. but didn't play THM then.
Sure, but would you rather be resurrected by blowing up a corpse, or holy magic? And i wouldn't mind if Raise was WHM spell rather than CNJ. Reviving people from the dead is supposed to be impossible, if i remember THM quest.
I look at it like, you don't actually *die* in-game, you just become incapacitated. Someone can be theoretically dead, but you can bring them back with surgery, and defibrillator; Raise is just a way to bring back someone who is close to dying. Lorewise there's no way to bring back the dead, short of necromancy, bringing people back as zombies. Otherwise it would be pretty convenient for CNJ to just revive all heroes, if they died from Bahamut.

I don't remember the details of THM quests, but i think it was just that Lal female that was crazy, and the THM guild didn't approve, and would have delt with her themselves, if we hadn't; so the graverobbing wasn't really a THM thing, just a crazy ass greedy Lal who thought she was doing people a service, by killing them; and making some personal profit from it.

There's a difference between *guiding the dead* to the afterlife, and defiling corpses; using them as tools. Most religions use some form of guiding the dead to the afterlife: that doesn't mean it has anything to do with necromancy, or healing. Though i guess you could see THM as some kind of shadow priests, that can heal also.
But there was 2 versions of THM in 1.0, and we'll see what happens in ARR, what we can make of it then
THM healing to some extent might make sense, but having some creepy necro as party healer would be a no-no. Realistically speaking everyone would be repulsed by it, except other necros i guess.

I want Resurrect back, because my zombie resurrection macro just doesnt sound the same with (Raise). Yes, that macro was made BECAUSE it went along with THM lore, and extremely humorous at the same time. It wasnt as good once they butcherd THM and took its heals and resurrect away...

And as long as we make sure to properly dispose of any corpses we raise to serve us, i dont see what the big deal is