Musketeer Needs a Job

[Nayto]

Most people are predicting that Musketeers would be red mages due to the french motif that both of them symbolize (Rdm uses rapiers and feather hats, Musketeers... the name itself).

I think there was quite a lengthy discusssion in this thread, not sure if it's the right one though:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...light=red+mage

Personally, i'd like Corsair since the Muskateer is based in Limsa and would make sense. But they could pull a 'Warrior' scenario and make it Muskateer>Ranger... about some dude being a renowned marksman and what not and it's your job to seek him out or something.

[Felis]

Most people are predicting that Musketeers would be red mages due to the french motif that both of them symbolize (Rdm uses rapiers and feather hats, Musketeers... the name itself).

I never know that RDM used muskets, too.

A musketeer (French: mousquetaire) was an early modern type of infantry soldier equipped with a musket.

I think a fencer suit the RDM better than a class with a gun.

[Duelle]

Most people are predicting that Musketeers would be red mages due to the french motif that both of them symbolize (Rdm uses rapiers and feather hats, Musketeers... the name itself).

Except the motif of the french musketeer is not anywhere close to how Limsa's military dresses and thus doesn't fit their aesthetic. It would look really out of place.

It could have Hide as its job command like edwin did from FFIV

Fixed.

And to the above pictures, you can post pictures of a bard using 50 different weapons, and you can do the same thing with every other class in this game. Doesn't really make a difference, lest I go find some pictures of paladins and 2 handed Swords/Axes/Maces, Crossbows, daggers, handaxes, handmaces, staves, and we can discuss some changes there as well.

Simply, the FINAL FANTASY bard is musical instruments for combat, mainly the harp.

Considering XI's PLD was able to use almost the same number of weapons as WAR before they changed that, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to see a PLD with an axe or mace. The axe would look iffy because I find axes to be a little barbaric, but I can let that slide. I got overly used to paladins and maces because of WoW, so that's not much of a stretch either.

This being said, the XI's Bard was also stupidly rare and gave way to the princess bard because its gameplay was something few were actually willing to put themselves through. If built-in DPS options with a bow (not to mention returning the bard to its status as a badass instead of the pansy we got used to in the FF series) helps get people to play the job, I say we win as a whole in the end. Even moreso if encounter balance will take having a BRD in-party into account, as chances are party leaders won't be killing each other just so they can have the sole bard in LFG join their group.
--------------------------------

On topic, Corsair. That's really the job that would make most sense.

[Shougun]

Considering XI's PLD was able to use almost the same number of weapons as WAR before they changed that, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to see a PLD with an axe or mace. The axe would look iffy because I find axes to be a little barbaric, but I can let that slide. I got overly used to paladins and maces because of WoW, so that's not much of a stretch either.

This being said, the XI's Bard was also stupidly rare and gave way to the princess bard because its gameplay was something few were actually willing to put themselves through. If built-in DPS options with a bow (not to mention returning the bard to its status as a badass instead of the pansy we got used to in the FF series) helps get people to play the job, I say we win as a whole in the end. Even moreso if encounter balance will take having a BRD in-party into account, as chances are party leaders won't be killing each other just so they can have the sole bard in LFG join their group.

I know it kills you so.

PLD with a staff. Boom done. (It was you who was like "WTF paladin with a staff" right? lol)

Now I agree the BRD needed more options in 11 but that doesn't mean you had to go bow - in Reika's edit it seems you quoted old text, they say "It could have done ranged attacks with musical instruments too like edwin did from FFIV".

Bard could be 100% beautiful bard with no convulsion and we could have had Ranger as well, in fact you can tweak some of the Bard in 1.0 changing some of his end spells and you could have a very similar job (tweaked Bard - > Ranger ) and still have room for a real Bard who used music offensively and defensively - actively (FFXI is a bad example, its like saying tanks are boring because in this one game I saw a boring tank - if you pick the worst example of course it will look bad)

---

lol I didnt think about it like that Nadrojj - but I have seen BRD in other MMOs a bit like guitar hero.. never played them so no idea if they worked...

But I'm not - I dont get peoples fixation on pointing out the worst bard example (FFXI) or saying that a bow is required for DPS.

Give the bard an auto attack where he strikes his harp (making a sharp note) and hits the monster - omg now he is a full on bard with music and he can dps just fine and he doesn't even have to be a mage class.

Also that scoundrel part is because of DnD who made it such but the definitions of bard is just a person who was a poet/sing/play music. Or the fact that in FF games he is literal to the definition (until FFXIV changed it)

Certainly you can change things - but that doesn't mean people need to agree. Like I said earlier you can argue a moogle should look like a chocobo and a chocobo should be a human but that doesn't mean SE should go changing Iconic design (and yes the Bard has enough history that he has an iconic design, and FFXIV bard goes against that).

[Altena]

Give the bard an auto attack where he strikes his harp (making a sharp note) and hits the monster - omg now he is a full on bard with music and he can dps just fine and he doesn't even have to be a mage class.

Also that scoundrel part is because of DnD who made it such but the definitions of bard is just a person who was a poet/sing/play music. Or the fact that in FF games he is literal to the definition (until FFXIV changed it)

I don't want to play a nancyboy that sings stuff to death. I want to play an Bard that sings/motivates the party to give them stronger buffs and kill stuff with a bow inbetween. BRD is fine as is, and it won't change so don't know why I care enough to reply to you anymore

Also if you actually followed the BRD storyline in XIV you will notice that the lore actually has a heavy weight on using a bow.